My chi mage is going to kill everybody.

[RoadWarriorFWaNK]

but first I have to know. In Rifts, can characters in power armor, robot vehicles, MD body armor, force fields (magic, psionic, whatever) or intangible Psi-Ghost-type characters be affected by Chi Powers? If yes, that's awesome.
Now Im not asking about Rifts Japan or Rifts China pseudo-Chi powers. I'm talking about a Wu Shih from Mystic China rifted 300 years into the future.
is there an "official" answer to this that maybe i've missed? If not I'll just say 'yes'.

[Ten Tigers]

Here is my ruling: If the power requires a touch, simple body armor will protect you.

You dont even need chi magic to get that nasty with it. Use normal chi combat to lower your victims to negative chi points, use "Control Negative Chi", enjoy "Fist of the North Star" type fun...

[RoadWarriorFWaNK]

that's what im asking. can I attack the chi of someone wearing power armor?

[RoadWarriorFWaNK]

use "Control Negative Chi", enjoy "Fist of the North Star" type fun...

and...erg....i hate to be 'that' guy....but....Control Negative Chi and Fist of the North Star have nothing to do with each other. The powers of the FotNS characters were achieved by pushing pressure points on the human body with tremendous strength and focus. They called it 'tsubo', N&SS calls it 'atemi'.
sorry, i had to go there. anyway...back to the subject.

[Ten Tigers]

use "Control Negative Chi", enjoy "Fist of the North Star" type fun...

and...erg....i hate to be 'that' guy....but....Control Negative Chi and Fist of the North Star have nothing to do with each other. The powers of the FotNS characters were achieved by pushing pressure points on the human body with tremendous strength and focus. They called it 'tsubo', N&SS calls it 'atemi'.
sorry, i had to go there. anyway...back to the subject.

Hence the word "type". I just always imagined the damage caused by Control Negative Chi to be similar to tsubo. Excessive negative chi can make for quite a juicy pop.

However, props to you for knowing your manga. I think the comic is 1000 times better than the anime was. Of course I havent watched the series yet.

On a related note, if the body armor is MD then I would not want to be the poor soul who opened the armor. Imagine some wilderness scout comming upon a nice, undamaged set of body armor in the wilderness.

"Hey, body armor... Wait, I better check for traps and ambushes... Hm seems safe enough..."

*opens contents under pressure*

"Doh!!!"

[RoadWarriorFWaNK]

now is that the OFFICIAL answer, or just how you run it? cuz i dont want my players pulling out some obscure statement in the back of a book or a Rifter and blowing my plot into kibble.
i mean, if it comes down to it, i'll rule the way i want and anyone who argues gets ninjas, but i'd just like to know if there's an official ruling so they won't think im trying to screw them over.

[RoadWarriorFWaNK]

works for me. not that it mattered in the end.....the power armor guys didn't even show up to the game but my chi mage did manage to Push Open Hand a juicer bandit over 150 feet.

[Nekira Sudacne]

body armor does not stop it.

[drewkitty ~..~]

balh balh balh.....I'll one up you. I have a Wu shih that lived through the coming of the rifts and the time of chaos. Not that I play this char much. If your going to play a chi mage then you might as well use more then just one thing from MC.

As for chi afecting ppl in body armor, the one rule I have when I GM about that is that if the body armor is fully enviromental then chi powers don't work aginest the char.

This dose not men they don't work aginst the armor, nor dose it mean the armor hides the wearer from Chi senses.

[Borast]

My quick and dirty answer...

Can your target use non-self only psi powers and / or cast spells affecting those outside of himself?

Yes: you can effect him/her with your chi abilities, up to and including turning him/her into a negative chi puppet, but not using things like Tien Husein (yes I know I misspelled it), which require you to touch the person.

No: if he can't effect you, you can't effect him.

[Svartalf]

use "Control Negative Chi", enjoy "Fist of the North Star" type fun...

and...erg....i hate to be 'that' guy....but....Control Negative Chi and Fist of the North Star have nothing to do with each other. The powers of the FotNS characters were achieved by pushing pressure points on the human body with tremendous strength and focus. They called it 'tsubo', N&SS calls it 'atemi'.
sorry, i had to go there. anyway...back to the subject.

Hence the word "type". I just always imagined the damage caused by Control Negative Chi to be similar to tsubo. Excessive negative chi can make for quite a juicy pop.

However, props to you for knowing your manga. I think the comic is 1000 times better than the anime was. Of course I havent watched the series yet."

begging pardon from a manga semi illiterate ... would you know the original title of FotNS ? it sounds a lot like somebody we know in France, but the vagaries of dubbing make it hard to recognize the same series among its international versions... and what's the hero's name?

[Nekira Sudacne]

use "Control Negative Chi", enjoy "Fist of the North Star" type fun...

and...erg....i hate to be 'that' guy....but....Control Negative Chi and Fist of the North Star have nothing to do with each other. The powers of the FotNS characters were achieved by pushing pressure points on the human body with tremendous strength and focus. They called it 'tsubo', N&SS calls it 'atemi'.
sorry, i had to go there. anyway...back to the subject.

Hence the word "type". I just always imagined the damage caused by Control Negative Chi to be similar to tsubo. Excessive negative chi can make for quite a juicy pop.

However, props to you for knowing your manga. I think the comic is 1000 times better than the anime was. Of course I havent watched the series yet."

begging pardon from a manga semi illiterate ... would you know the original title of FotNS ? it sounds a lot like somebody we know in France, but the vagaries of dubbing make it hard to recognize the same series among its international versions... and what's the hero's name?

Hero's name. Kenshiro

the rest. . . I don't know

[Tinker Dragoon]

begging pardon from a manga semi illiterate ... would you know the original title of FotNS ? it sounds a lot like somebody we know in France, but the vagaries of dubbing make it hard to recognize the same series among its international versions... and what's the hero's name?

The Japanese name for Fist of the North Star is Hokuto no Ken.

[RoadWarriorFWaNK]

i know. I have that Rifter.
After some reading into chi in the 'real world', im starting to lean towards saying that people in environmental armor would be unaffected by chi attacks.
it seems to me that environments that are completely sealed off; air-tight, would restrict the flow of chi into and out of that environment. anyone will tell you that locking yourself into a tiny space, breathing recycled air, staring at the world through video screens and radar maps, is unhealthy.
People need to feel the cool wind, they need the warm sun, and they need fresh air. All of those tihngs bring positive chi.
but shutting yourself up away from those things would take you out of the flow of chi.
does anyone understand what im trying to say?

[Nekira Sudacne]

i know. I have that Rifter.
After some reading into chi in the 'real world', im starting to lean towards saying that people in environmental armor would be unaffected by chi attacks.
it seems to me that environments that are completely sealed off; air-tight, would restrict the flow of chi into and out of that environment. anyone will tell you that locking yourself into a tiny space, breathing recycled air, staring at the world through video screens and radar maps, is unhealthy.
People need to feel the cool wind, they need the warm sun, and they need fresh air. All of those tihngs bring positive chi.
but shutting yourself up away from those things would take you out of the flow of chi.
does anyone understand what im trying to say?

yes