Future Dimension Books

Carl Gleba · Unread post by **Carl Gleba** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:20 am

So I'm just curious on what other folks want to see as far as Rifts dimension books.

1. Further development on existing DB settings. I.E. Wormwood, Phase World and others.

2. Development of known other dimensions such as Asgard, mount Olympus and similar.

3. Create brand new dimension never heard of with new O.C.C.'s, gear and everything.

I would like to see all three especially from another authors point of view.

Game wise I use many of Palladium's other lines as different dimensions. I've had players go to Heroes Unlimited, Robotech palladium fantasy, and Manhunter to name a few. Since I own al of Palladium's lines I have a wealth of "dimensions" at my disposal.

The Oh So Amazing Nate · Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:45 am

Uhhmm could we please have DB 9. Whatever it was supposed to be (UWW I think wasn't it?)

Chronicle · Unread post by **Chronicle** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:48 am

Wormwood just kinda stopped after release with a few mentions in rifters a wormwood world book would be cool.

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:37 pm

*shrug* I dunno. I'd LIKE a bit more fleshing out for Phaseworld (See aforementioned DB9) but also I wouldn't mind seeing Breaux's un-published 'Attorian Empire' completed and published.
Or you know...Mechanoid Space which is what...nearly 16, 17 years delayed?

flatline · Unread post by **flatline** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:55 pm

A Wormwood sequel to flesh out the gaps is what I'd like, but I'm not holding my breath.

Besides that, I'd like fresh new settings.

-flatline

Vrykolas2k · Unread post by **Vrykolas2k** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:20 pm

A UWW book would be nice.
A book that details more ships, such as the Promethean shape-shifting dreadnought would also be cool.
So would a Wormwood sourcebook.
A book that clarifies certain things about Cosmo-knights and Fallen would also be great, hopefully written by someone who doesn't hate the OCCs.
A few books about other dimensions and pocket dimensions would rock, but only after the main ones I'd think.

Alrik Vas · Unread post by **Alrik Vas** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:44 pm

Wormwood book would be pretty cool, yeah. Though the UWW book I'm interested in as well.

In the end...I think Mechanoid Space gets teh vote though, just on principle.

smashed · Unread post by **smashed** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:46 pm

A UWW book to flesh out the Phase World Setting would be the first I think. After that I think the Three Galaxies could use a break, or at very most just have smaller books the flesh out various aspects like Cosmo Knights or a specific race.

A think Wormwood would be a great setting to expand. Though for it I would prefer if there was a Ultimate Edition re-write of it, it has more then its fair share of flaws and confusing rules. So I think rehashing the crunch of the book would be great, followed by a couple of sourcebooks.

I think a book of divine realms would better fit as just outlines, preferably coupled with a Rifts version of Dragons and Gods.

I would like you to flesh out the elemental hub dimension you mentioned in the Megaverasal Builder, however.

Beyond that, I don't really have a desire to see fully developed new dimensions, but a book that collects overviews of dimensions might be fun and useful.

eliakon · Unread post by **eliakon** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:53 pm

I wouldn't mind a few smaller books in the Dean Reign vein on dimensions and stuff. What I don't want to see though is stuff that changes the established cosmology. But mini books on places like the various underworlds, demon dimensions, alternate time lines and the like would be pretty cool.

PSI-Lence · Unread post by **PSI-Lence** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:48 am

wormwood by far would be my choice
i like it as is though an updated version with more info would be nice, but even better maybe an update on what has happened and changed (i haven't read the CS wars yet but i imagine at least a few mages fled to wormwood)

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:15 pm

Well I would like a UWW,s Book,maybe some phase world,s adventure sourcebooks focus on different things Like One is On Adventure CCW,s Explorer,s ships and so On.

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:45 pm

I want new, alternate dimensions.

Chronicle · Unread post by **Chronicle** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:16 pm

The original chaos earth idea

Dragon Mage · Unread post by **Dragon Mage** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:54 pm

Hey I would like to see more on wormwood. We have had a lot for phase world. I like the setting but it world be better to get books about other areas.

Also a book on the gods realms would be cool as well. In the same way as hades and hell got there own books.

Later,

-dragonmage-

MaxxSterling · Unread post by **MaxxSterling** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:00 pm

The first book that needs made is Starship construction rules that are detailed, even if somewhat dry like in the Galaxy Guide but hugely updated and expanded upon. And include some additional Three Galaxies information, maybe some gear and skills as well.

Then I would say some additional dimension books, for new dimensions we are not familiar with.

Warshield73 · Unread post by **Warshield73** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:01 am

MaxxSterling wrote:The first book that needs made is Starship construction rules that are detailed, even if somewhat dry like in the Galaxy Guide but hugely updated and expanded upon. And include some additional Three Galaxies information, maybe some gear and skills as well.

Then I would say some additional dimension books, for new dimensions we are not familiar with.

This is the big one, it can even be a rewrite and replacement of old ship stats as well as updated space combat. Something that could be used with an updated rifts space and mechanoids so that you can do crossover battles.

As for other books, small books detailing places we already know about (like scortched lands, ugakwan home world & plain of mist from the original Phase World book).

filo_clarke · Unread post by **filo_clarke** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:48 am

(+1) Dimension Book 9: UWW, please!

Greyaxe · Unread post by **Greyaxe** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:44 am

I would like to flesh out the Dimensions we are familiar with, Asgard, Olympus etc. I think these would be a great addition to Hades and Dyval. and useful for more than just rifts and PW.

Slight001 · Unread post by **Slight001** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:29 pm

Chronicle wrote:The original chaos earth idea

what was that?

eliakon · Unread post by **eliakon** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:51 pm

Things I *DON'T* want to see: kewl new one of universes that exist just to bring some cute pet idea into the game. The elemental planes (no really, if all the elementals are totally inscrutable, and can ONLY talk to Warlocks....then the amount of changes needed to the canon would be immense. I LIKE the fact that they are right now mysterious places that people don't go adventuring, and home to races that are so totally alien that it takes a mystical union with them to even attempt basic communications.) Eylor (as soon as this is stated, everyone and their dogboy will have been there). The Afterlife (That is WAY to campaign specific to get any treatment in books....China is already far to specific for my tastes). Something just done half way (don't make a book like Phase Word, and then say 'just the one book')

drewkitty ~..~ · Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:03 pm

While I agree with eliakon in his basics, I would like to see a new space setting setting developed. If this is just the Mechnoids Space we have been years promised or a totally new one, it would be good. I think the 3G setting is a bit played out. Except for maybe some adventure books/"modules".

While there is some possibility for expanding the WW setting there is not much there more then a couple books worth of expanding the 'city' info. Otherwise it will mean there will be a power creep situation.

DevastationBob · Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:09 pm

I'd like to see a book collecting all the "official" Rifter stuff. It could have a little bit of everything.

Semi-Retired Gamer · Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:00 am

Chronicle wrote:The original chaos earth idea

+1...count me in on that one!

Slight001 · Unread post by **Slight001** » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:43 am

Semi-Retired Gamer wrote:
Chronicle wrote:The original chaos earth idea

+1...count me in on that one!

once again... what was the original chaos earth idea?

Carl Gleba · Unread post by **Carl Gleba** » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:46 am

Slight001 wrote:
Semi-Retired Gamer wrote:
Chronicle wrote:The original chaos earth idea

+1...count me in on that one!

once again... what was the original chaos earth idea?

Yeah I would like to know too?

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:53 am

As I recall, when it originally came up in the Rifter "Chaos Earth" was to be an alternate Rifts Earth where the coming of the Rifts occurred at 11:30 pm rather than midnight. While an apocalypse still resulted, it was much less devastating and Humanity wasn't brought to the brink of extinction. So you'd have the Golden Age of Man versus the Coming of the Rifts in a much more controlled, less hopeless situation.

Edit: It was presented in Rifter #7. The article gives a brief world overview set 50 years after the "Chaos Event" which occurred at 11:30 pm instead of midnight. Here's the blurb from the end of that article which sums it up:

Kevin wrote:The basic premise: A spin on Rifts that asks the questions, What if civilization had not collapsed? How would human society have fared against the resurfacing of magic and the encroachment of supernatural and alien beings? This leads to other interesting questions. How will the world powers of the Golden Age of Man respond to threats from supernatural and demonic invaders and alien forces? Would they marshal an army of Glitter Boys, SAMAS, Crazies, Juicers, and other high-powered creations of Cyberworks, Triax and others?

And then there's humankind itself. How will it respond? Will people fear or embrace aspects of magic and the supernatural? Who will be corrupted by power and magic? Which cities or nations will adopt magic or swear allegiance to inhuman masters? What places will stand strong while others succumb to the chaos of a frightening and changing world? Will there be global war?

This is a glimpse of what might have been. A parallel universe to Rifts Earth. A world of super-science that comes into direct conflict with the impossible! With magic and the supernatural.

Slight001 · Unread post by **Slight001** » Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:56 pm

Ok, now that is an interesting idea that I'd enjoy playing within.

Chronicle · Unread post by **Chronicle** » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:17 pm

Sorry didn't mean to be so vague. But I alway wanted to know what it would seem like if the perfect storm came a day late

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:32 pm

Well, in Original Flavor Chaos Earth, you would have had Congress debating whether or not to extend resident alien status to the Squibs and the Bluesies(d-bees species who are known to have fought alongside NEMA in canon Rifts/Chaos Earth). The Vanax kingdom would have lasted a lot shorter with the U.S. Armed Services organized and able to paste them. Maybe a Psionics and Supernaturals Registration Act effectively drafting mutants and mages into government/civil service, and leveling very stiff penalties(including 'shoot on sight' for those caught committing crimes using such abilities). NASA might get a new mission as a sub-agency of the Department of Homeland Security, building probes to send through Rifts to figure out early warning and how possibly to close them.

Witchcraft · Unread post by **Witchcraft** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:35 pm

The dimensions outlined in The Dimension Builder Book are a great place to start! A book dedicated to any one of those dimensions (Garbage anyone? Pillars?) would be awesome.

I'd love to see a smaller sourcebook for Thundercloud Galaxy and the Final Space Frontier with places like UWW, Splugorth Home Dimension,

I love the dimensions that are "talked" about in Dragons and Gods but not fleshed out. For example, what the **** is Ma'ip? Does it have ties to the elemental dimensions of Fire, Air, Water, Earth, Wood, and Metal? Is it supposed to be like heaven only for PFRPG? There's angels and gods and pantheons that live there and ALL DOGS GO TO MA'IP?!?! Let's see what THAT's like...in a way that only Carl Gleba can describe!

How about a Dimension Book that is entirely unknown, foreign, alien, and unlike ANYTHING in the Megaverse -- one in which Potential Psychic Energy doesn't exist? Maybe it once existed but it doesn't anymore? Call it Elemental CHAOS?!?! Birthplace of the Old Ones? What about Dimension Books that are tied to ancient / elder races and creatures of magic -- Birthplace of Dragons, Birthplace of Prometheans, Birthplace of the First Race? Splugorth Home Dimension -- dunno but it sounds like a wild ride!

Looonatic · Unread post by **Looonatic** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:52 pm

It doesn't have to be Dimension Book 9, but I really would like to see some Three Galaxies techno-wizardry.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:35 pm

Witchcraft wrote:How about a Dimension Book that is entirely unknown, foreign, alien, and unlike ANYTHING in the Megaverse -- one in which Potential Psychic Energy doesn't exist? Maybe it once existed but it doesn't anymore? Call it Elemental CHAOS?!?! Birthplace of the Old Ones? What about Dimension Books that are tied to ancient / elder races and creatures of magic -- Birthplace of Dragons, Birthplace of Prometheans, Birthplace of the First Race? Splugorth Home Dimension -- dunno but it sounds like a wild ride!

Or a universe where the use of ANY magic or psionic ability doesn't just fizzle, it causes a violent reaction(something in the universal structure lights off more violently than the Splicer Nanoplague in contact with metal and human DNA), like lighting a match in a gas works.
That having been said, there are pockets where magic exists, insulated from the effect. Thing is, the universe is one of the prisons of the Old Ones, and the anti-magic/psionic abreaction is one of the failsafes against the prisoners in those 'pockets' from escaping(since their inherent PPE/ISP will burn them alive once they come in contact with the effect pervading the universe).

Kovoston · Unread post by **Kovoston** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:12 pm

Mechanoid Space my first choice... Or
Olympus or an alternate dimension book (something new).

SolCannibal · Unread post by **SolCannibal** » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:06 pm

I would like to see some dimension with REALLY superpowered psionics battling for the destiny of Earth & universe like in Akira, Mai the psychic girl, Katsuhiro Otomo's Armaggedon and a bunch of 70's & 80's anime.

SpiritInterface · Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:52 am

DB9 UWW would be great. I have been waiting patiently for more and clearer information on magic in space and on how magical societies and worlds work. Information on magical training and disciplines would also be nice.

Witchcraft · Unread post by **Witchcraft** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:01 pm

taalismn wrote:
Witchcraft wrote:How about a Dimension Book that is entirely unknown, foreign, alien, and unlike ANYTHING in the Megaverse -- one in which Potential Psychic Energy doesn't exist? Maybe it once existed but it doesn't anymore? Call it Elemental CHAOS?!?! Birthplace of the Old Ones? What about Dimension Books that are tied to ancient / elder races and creatures of magic -- Birthplace of Dragons, Birthplace of Prometheans, Birthplace of the First Race? Splugorth Home Dimension -- dunno but it sounds like a wild ride!

Or a universe where the use of ANY magic or psionic ability doesn't just fizzle, it causes a violent reaction(something in the universal structure lights off more violently than the Splicer Nanoplague in contact with metal and human DNA), like lighting a match in a gas works.
That having been said, there are pockets where magic exists, insulated from the effect. Thing is, the universe is one of the prisons of the Old Ones, and the anti-magic/psionic abreaction is one of the failsafes against the prisoners in those 'pockets' from escaping(since their inherent PPE/ISP will burn them alive once they come in contact with the effect pervading the universe).

Wow Taalismn! This is an AWESOME IDEA!!! I'm only sorry I didn't read it until two weeks later!

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:04 pm

SpiritInterface wrote:DB9 UWW would be great. I have been waiting patiently for more and clearer information on magic in space and on how magical societies and worlds work. Information on magical training and disciplines would also be nice.

"Wot ee sed!"
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH!

-ahem-
I meant to say, SpiritInterface had an excellent thought / request.

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:15 pm

SolCannibal wrote:I would like to see some dimension with REALLY superpowered psionics battling for the destiny of Earth & universe like in Akira, Mai the psychic girl, Katsuhiro Otomo's Armaggedon and a bunch of 70's & 80's anime.

I think something like this would be great!

Nemo235 · Unread post by **Nemo235** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:08 pm

Okay, this may sound cheesy or maybe like something that has been overdone and everyone is sick of.
Oh well.

Something sort of steampunk and horror based that can double as an alternate background for Beyond the Supernatural.
Maybe an alternate Earth where the Rifts disaster hit earlier in history around the late 1800s.

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:09 pm

Nemo235 wrote:Okay, this may sound cheesy or maybe like something that has been overdone and everyone is sick of.
Oh well.

Something sort of steampunk and horror based that can double as an alternate background for Beyond the Supernatural.
Maybe an alternate Earth where the Rifts disaster hit earlier in history around the late 1800s.

A late 1800's, early 1900's apocalyptic steampunk dystopia?Giant steampowered mecha fighting demons and monsters? Sign me up!

jaymz · Unread post by **jaymz** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:14 am

Definitely expansion of Wormwood and maybe Skraypers too. I think Phaseworld needs a break. We have 13 Dimension Books and 6 of them are essentially PW specific. If another PW book or two are to be done then I think the UWW and a Corkscrew galaxy book the way to go and then move on to other dimensions. Maybe at a later time do books for CCW and Kreeghor to round out the dimension and be done with it.

Maybe some new dimensions that are not as....grandiose as PW.

Something Gundam-esque perhaps.

Considering the turnaround time involved in doing any books (not trying to bash or anything just bringing the reality of it into play) the question should be what is realistic to be done in the time frame we have to get it out? I mean seriously, Kevin is in his 50's now....I can't see more than another 10 good years ahead of us right now . (conservative estimate and not rtying to be morbid or bash again just being realistic)

Using those Criteria I'd vote for ONLY PW books to get done in order to finish the dimension off. UWW, CCW, Kreeghor and Corkscrew Galaxy books.

Vrykolas2k · Unread post by **Vrykolas2k** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:35 pm

Glistam wrote:
Nemo235 wrote:Okay, this may sound cheesy or maybe like something that has been overdone and everyone is sick of.
Oh well.

Something sort of steampunk and horror based that can double as an alternate background for Beyond the Supernatural.
Maybe an alternate Earth where the Rifts disaster hit earlier in history around the late 1800s.

A late 1800's, early 1900's apocalyptic steampunk dystopia?Giant steampowered mecha fighting demons and monsters? Sign me up!

Hear, hear!

Tor · Unread post by **Tor** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:18 am

Phase World page 16 mentioned gateways to a 'Plain of Mist' and 'Scorched Lands'. I could never figure if those had ever been referenced anywhere else. They sounded interesting.

A 'wormgates' sourcebook for Wormwood which goes into detail about all the portals connecting it to Phase World and Earth (and possibly other locations) would also be swell. Perhaps with details on what exactly Tiamat is up to there, if the leader of the Society of the Knife wants revenge against those who chased him off, whether or not Salome has achieved godhood with her 500 million worshippers, etc.

kirnos · Unread post by **kirnos** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:53 pm

Corkscrew Galaxy Sourcebook, to complete the galaxy sourcebooks