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No.

They have no muscles to build with physical skills.

Just speed correct.
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Dr. Doom v.3.2.5 wrote:No.

They have no muscles to build with physical skills.

Just speed correct.
Well this is a first

Again

spd is the ability to use your musles to move, so if they have no muscles. . . .

now if you mean the speed frompractice then thats another story since you still have a brain and a certain percentage of your central nervous system.
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Black Cross wrote:Doom, by speed do you mean adding to the Speed attribute or quickness at doing things? If the first it does not make sense, if the second it does.


Oh the second part is also about skills adding speed if you have bionic legs?

No they would not.

It sounded like you were asking if bionic legs affected the character's PS or PP. In that case it would not. Just Spd. would be affected.
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Under Rifts: UE rules, Cyborgs no longer have a PE stat full stop. They *do* enjoy a flat +3 to save vs. magic due to their construction. Additionally, Cyborgs no longer use Hit Points (the old PE + 1D8/Level rule), or indeed are affected by effects that damage Hit Points as they are "considered to be a Mega-Damage creature now."

Thank god for that. No more cheap Phase Weapon kills against 'Borgs :frust:

Otherwise, common-sense rules apply to 'Borgs regarding physical skills. Full-conversion 'Borgs can't benefit from *any* bonuses from physical skills, unless they are combat bonuses/attacks per round, such as boxing or wrestling; you cannot make a car run further on the same-sized tank of fuel just by driving it long distances, and 'Borgs are the same. You cannot exercise a machine.

Partial 'Borgs *can* benefit, but only insofar as it makes sense. A Headhunter with a pair of bionic legs will get no benefit speed-wise from the Running skill, for example, but may gain some benefit storytelling-wise from Body Building for his meat arm. It can make the game highly complex though, so use judgement when and where to apply it.

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Kdaini wrote:The headhunter is considered a partial borg with only a bionic limb.
This is correct?
The PP of the limbs can be applied for dodge?


That is correct and no the PP of the one limb is not used for a dodge. Just for anything that one limb does alone.
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Dakini wrote:Thanks, Dr Doom :ok:
With the PP of the bionic limbs i have a doubt: a full borg (or a partial borg with all bionic limbs) what PP use for dodge.
I think he/she would use the PP of the bionic legs buy I'm not sure
:?


For dodge the PP of the legs for strike the PP of the arms (unless you're kicking :) ).
Hopefully they will be the same for convenience sake.
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