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If Rifts Earth is invaded by "Cosmos Intelligences"..

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If Rifts Earth is invaded by "Cosmos Intelligences".. what would you do?

Would you betray humanity and ally yourself with such "Cosmos Intelligences"?

Or would you fight these "Cosmos Intelligences" to the bitter end?

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"Cosmos Intelligences"...?

What do you mean? Like...Splugorth? The Cosmic Forge deciding it's had enough of everyone's *&#@ and going on the warpath?
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Whenever I read one his posts like this I get a feeling like I'm reading an unfamiliar dialect. I think he has his own set of slang and shorthand for things, and forgets that no one else uses it.

So my advice crystaleye, is to explain what you mean by 'cosmos intelligences', and use plenty of detail.
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I would betray all humanity to get some decent Bio-Wizardry and Symbiote upgrades, just like that human leading a bunch of Minions in Mercenaries, just sayin', nothing personal.

Absurr Life Node would be worth some moral self-questioning.
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Axelmania wrote:I would betray all humanity to get some decent Bio-Wizardry and Symbiote upgrades, just like that human leading a bunch of Minions in Mercenaries, just sayin', nothing personal.

Absurr Life Node would be worth some moral self-questioning.



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Cosmos intelligence different than an alien intelligence?

Probably try to do the nobel fight to the bitter end I suppose, maybe , I dont know its hard to say. How bad is it under their control ?
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Given their prevalence in the world books, I think there's a good argument that Rifts Earth HAS been invaded by Alien Intelligences.

WB 1: Several Vampire Intelligences
WB 2: Land ruled by Splugorth, with occasional visiting splugorth.
WB 3: Hey, look, another Alien Intelligence
WB 4: 4 alien intelligences who combine to make a super alien intelligence.
WB 5: No new alien intelligence, but lots of support from the one in WB 2
WB 6: IDK
WB 7: World-wide alien intelligence who threatens all the coasts.

I mean, this pretty much blankets the world in Alien Intelligences, and these are just the ones I know pretty well.
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and given that palladium loves their alien intelligences, those end up the 'go to' badguys more often than not.

to the point we fans had to invent the term YAAI = "yet another Alien Intelligence"
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Mark Hall wrote:Given their prevalence in the world books, I think there's a good argument that Rifts Earth HAS been invaded by Alien Intelligences.

WB 1: Several Vampire Intelligences
WB 2: Land ruled by Splugorth, with occasional visiting splugorth.
WB 3: Hey, look, another Alien Intelligence
WB 4: 4 alien intelligences who combine to make a super alien intelligence.
WB 5: No new alien intelligence, but lots of support from the one in WB 2
WB 6: IDK
WB 7: World-wide alien intelligence who threatens all the coasts.

I mean, this pretty much blankets the world in Alien Intelligences, and these are just the ones I know pretty well.


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Mark Hall wrote:Given their prevalence in the world books, I think there's a good argument that Rifts Earth HAS been invaded by Alien Intelligences.

WB 1: Several Vampire Intelligences
WB 2: Land ruled by Splugorth, with occasional visiting splugorth.
WB 3: Hey, look, another Alien Intelligence
WB 4: 4 alien intelligences who combine to make a super alien intelligence.
WB 5: No new alien intelligence, but lots of support from the one in WB 2
WB 6: IDK
WB 7: World-wide alien intelligence who threatens all the coasts.

I mean, this pretty much blankets the world in Alien Intelligences, and these are just the ones I know pretty well.

WB6: offers up another VI, links to WB2.

However, after WB7 "new" AI types seem to drop off with Nyxla and maybe one or two others being the only "new" guy(s), though WB1 & 2 makes inroads in a few more books, but primarily after WB7 they seem to have shifted away from AIs as a factor to the point no more than 1/3 of WBs deal with AIs at all (SB and DBs just work to make it an even smaller fraction since they don't really introduce any new ones for the most part).
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The adventure in the back of mercenaries too, reading the description it would be a heck of a fight for most parties even in its astral only form.
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Given the Poster and various previous comments, I am going to take a stab and guess that Cosmos Intelligences are a super AI variant that use Cosmic Energy.
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Nekira Sudacne wrote:Given the Poster and various previous comments, I am going to take a stab and guess that Cosmos Intelligences are a super AI variant that use Cosmic Energy.

So like the forge?
I dont standing against the forge or someone that has control of it as just one dimension is really going to work out, ill go with it if thats case. Probably see us as any and not care what we do at that power level.
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A running theme in Rifts is the unique chaotic nature of Rifts Earth..

I'd like to think Rifts Earth is proverbially 'too spicy a meatball' for any one alien intelligence to be able to take and hold for very long.
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There are too many Powerful Small kingdoms to actually take Rifts Earth. Splynn probably could but the cost would be astronomical and leave him weakened and vulnerable to a rival.
So if a Splugorth(pimp slapper of Gods) couldn't do it, nothing can.
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say652 wrote:There are too many Powerful Small kingdoms to actually take Rifts Earth. Splynn probably could but the cost would be astronomical and leave him weakened and vulnerable to a rival.
So if a Splugorth(pimp slapper of Gods) couldn't do it, nothing can.

This isn't far from the truth, but it isn't that Splynn can't conquer the planet it comes down to holding that territory is considered a virtual impossibility. But Splyn is not all of the Splugorth.

Splynn himself though only controls 3 worlds outside Atlantis (which is only part of Earth, so not a full planet), so his resources might be more limited compared to other Splugorth. For example: Rynncryyl (DB5) has a Kingdom in the Anvil Galaxy (which is 25% of the total Splugorth in the Anvil Galaxy) that has at 10 worlds of note, and possibly more that aren't worth noting (or located outside of the Anvil Galaxy), so he might find it easier what with more resources to draw from.
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I'd also say that Splynn COULD do it, and might well, in time... but that's because the post-apocalyptic calendar is pretty much an eyeblink for him. "Oh, 110 years? I've spent longer than that learning to play the bagpipes. I still suck at the bagpipes."

If you look at things right now, he's fighting a proxy war in Europe, has an outpost in England, and a client state in Northern Africa. Meanwhile, he's raiding into North America, without trying to hold territory.

So, let's say he decides to put some pressure behind the Gargoyles in Europe, and put the NDR into a more compliant state. He might take a couple hundred years to lock down Europe, but then he can start moving in other directions... make Africa compliant and start taking their resources.

He works on long time scales. He might have a long-term plan to take over Earth... or might not care.
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Splynn's earth holdings/connections..

Customers/proxy war = Gargoyle Empire, The Alps/France

Client State = Phoenix Empire, North Africa
Client State = Legato/Lizardman territory, Brazil.

Outpost = London-of-Splynn, Southern England
Outpost = Newfoundland, Canada

Hunting territory = Ireland
Hunting Territory = Labrador, Canada
Hunting Territory = Eastern Seaboard, North America
Hunting Territory = Amazon Delta, South America
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glitterboy2098 wrote:Splynn's earth holdings/connections..

Customers/proxy war = Gargoyle Empire, The Alps/France

Client State = Phoenix Empire, North Africa
Client State = Legato/Lizardman territory, Brazil.

Outpost = London-of-Splynn, Southern England
Outpost = Newfoundland, Canada

Hunting territory = Ireland
Hunting Territory = Labrador, Canada
Hunting Territory = Eastern Seaboard, North America
Hunting Territory = Amazon Delta, South America

To add to the list:
Customers/Ally (WB7 pg164-5) = Horone Pirates, World Ocean

Hunting Territory (WB7 pg 173) = World Ocean (most active in North Atlantic, Mediterranean Sea, lesser degree South Atlantic, and even lesser is the rest)
Hunting Territory (WB6 pg152, 154) = coastlines of Africa (maybe even farther inland)
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