OCCs/RCCs no one ever has actually tried to play

[Bood Samel]

Rifts has so many obscure classes and races that I bet there are some playable classes and races that no one ever has actually played. Other then maybe playtesters, but sometimes I get the feeling palladium isn't to extensive with playtesting. What classes and races do you guys think that no player out there has actually bothered to play?

[Dustin Fireblade]

Class wise - maybe some of the OCC's from England and Africa, and oddballs like the Russian "Story Teller" or Russian "Villager" OCC's. From New West I doubt anyone has played the Saloon Bum/Girl.

[cornholioprime]

Even though we are all Jason Richards.....I have never yet actually played that O.C.C.

[Armorlord]

I can at least say that the Saloon Girl has been played. Had one running around in a New West/Arzno game I was running, well still running if I can ever get the players together again, but I digress.

[Shawn Merrow]

Even though we are all Jason Richards.....I have never yet actually played that O.C.C.

I think that is a R.C.C.

[RoadWarriorFWaNK]

I bet no one's ever played a Wannabe Juicer. But I would.

[The Galactus Kid]

Butter Troll as a Plyer Character

[RoadWarriorFWaNK]

Butter Troll as a Plyer Character

dude this is fantasy role-playing not real life.

[Prince Artemis]

Body Fixer

[csbioborg]

african witch
or the russian witch that uses the oh so powerful spoiling magic

[JuliusCreed]

PFRPG's Optional OCC's particularly Peasant/Farmer and Merchant

Magic OCC's from Mystic China, especially the Blind Mystic

[SkyeFyre]

Of the classes mentioned so far I have played:
The Farmer from PF
The Saloon Girl
and
A Body Fixer (one of my favorite characters)

A player at my table has played a Juicer Wannabe.

[MaxxSterling]

Honestly, I think that about tons and tons of these occs/rccs, but then I started on these boards and realize that people are really really really odd and actually do play some of these strange occs/rccs. I'm just glad I don't have to game with any of them. So, really, I bet they've all been played, except, the zembahk. If someone can seriously tell me that they rolled one up and played it on a campaign, then I am done with these boards as they have nothing to offer me.

[Dr Megaverse]

Madhaven Mutant R.C.C.s? Except maybe the machine mutants.

[Bood Samel]

You know despite the tacky Indian material in spirit west the inuit shaman in the canada book isn't bad, though I'd bet it maybe one of these classes no one has ever played. I do know a girl who played a saloon girl. I'm glad to hear that someone played the juicer wanna-be. A campaign of only obscure/silly OCCs and RCCs could be fun. The flooper is the flumph of rifts.

I like the madhaven mutants, though I have never played one. If I did I'd go for a Quill-Man. They're still new to the game and I hope someone plays them at some point. Madhaven was a brilliant book. While some players may deliberately play an obscure OCC/RCC for amusement I bet many have never been used. I really hope no one ever played a whale singer in a non-humorous way, like they thought it was cool at face value.

[Johnathan]

I played a zembahk! Over ten years ago back when the only books I owned was Atlantis, Coalition War Machine and the RMB! He was the groups friendly Slug. Abomidable and Ugly, but had a wonderful personality and everyone just seemed to like the little worm! Admittedly, that might have been due a lot to Empathic transmission... But who cares!?

He was actually one of the most powerful psychic characters I have ever played!

[Subjugator]

Body Fixer

I had a friend that played a transferred intelligence robot body fixer.

/Sub

[Bood Samel]

What of the more recent D-Bees (like all the new ones in the D-Bee book) have people played?

On a side note I've been tempted here and there to play a cactus man.

[RoadWarriorFWaNK]

Magic OCC's from Mystic China, especially the Blind Mystic

I played a Wu Shih in a game of Rifts. He was one of the most powerful legal characters i've ever played. A lot of fun too.

[Johnathan]

What of the more recent D-Bees (like all the new ones in the D-Bee book) have people played?

On a side note I've been tempted here and there to play a cactus man.

Amazingly, not a DARN ONE!! The only, actual, "D-Bee" I have ever played is an Elf. I have the book and have perused through it on several occasions and none have ever just popped out at me as something I would play... Strange now that I think about it. Maybe it's time I make a Quick-Flex or a Grackle Tooth...

[Bood Samel]

I really like a lot of the Rifts specific D-Bees and I try not to use typical fantasy races. Though I have yet to use a lot of the new D-Bees either as a player or GM. Some are a little too Ewok-esque for me, what I mean by that is that a lot of them are cutesy, and goodie-goodie. Though they had a few ass kickers in there.

[Damian Magecraft]

so far the only ones I have not played are the WB:30 D-Bees.
(I tend to run humans.)

[Saitou Hajime]

Rogue Scientist?

[SkyeFyre]

Rogue Scientist?

Ran a game where two of my players were Rogue Scientists. That's right, not one but two Rogue Scientists.

[Mack]

Here's a few I'll be surprised if anyone as played:
-- Forger (Merc's p21).
-- Tin-Man (Merc Adventures, p32)

[Mack]

So, really, I bet they've all been played, except, the zembahk. If someone can seriously tell me that they rolled one up and played it on a campaign, then I am done with these boards as they have nothing to offer me.

...

I played a zembahk! Over ten years ago back when the only books I owned was Atlantis, Coalition War Machine and the RMB! He was the groups friendly Slug. Abomidable and Ugly, but had a wonderful personality and everyone just seemed to like the little worm! Admittedly, that might have been due a lot to Empathic transmission... But who cares!?

He was actually one of the most powerful psychic characters I have ever played!

Buh-bye, Maxx!

[Johnathan]

Y'know... I'd thought about playing a Forger once or twice before. Except not in RIFTS... Maybe an environment that's more... Modern.

[SkyeFyre]

Well it would appear that these seemingly useless O.C.C.s actually get a fair amount of use.

[Mr. Jays]

I've played a Forger. In fact, I've played all of the O.C.C.s in Mercenaries.

[Shark_Force]

Well it would appear that these seemingly useless O.C.C.s actually get a fair amount of use.

oh, i wouldn't necessarily say that any of them are useles. i would just describe them as being so situational that i'd rather subcontract an NPC...

a forger is a useful guy to know, when you are going someplace that relies extensively on blindly following orders found in documents. and in that one situation, the forger is an exceptionally useful person. the problem is that i can play another character that has the forgery skill and can do a passable job at it, *and* is good in many other situations.

[csbioborg]

combat mage its just like a battle magi but weaker from its text

the rules really need to be modified with some of these OCCs because some of these OCCs seem to be clearly feeder OCCs into another
for example the Juicer Wannabe so he gets his wish and becomes a juicer should he really have all his stats frozen until he becomes equal level or would it make more sense to have some sort of merger process
another one is the Sherriff's deputy so at fifth level he gets promoted by the city to Sherriff he could either stay a Deputy even though he is sherrif or do he above even hough he has mos of he exac skills of the Sherrif

seriously anyone play the witch with the spoiling magic?

[Bood Samel]

Some OCCs need not exist. Like the Forger mentioned. Anybody could take the skill. OCCs should be distinct from one another. I like the OCC varients, like the variety of head hunters and city rats we have, showing how an OCC can be specialized.

[SkyeFyre]

I like the approach taken with O.C.C.s in RUE. Every single one of them were updated with abilities that only that class got. Yes, even the Vagabond's "Eyeball a fella'" helped distinguish that class from others.

[Damian Magecraft]

I like the approach taken with O.C.C.s in RUE. Every single one of them were updated with abilities that only that class got. Yes, even the Vagabond's "Eyeball a fella'" helped distinguish that class from others.

yeah that is a cool idea.
Except with 600+ Occ/Rcc/Pcc's I foresee some overlap in the "unique" class features if this becomes the new trend.

[Vrykolas2k]

No one has ever played a Vagabond in my games, nor some of the more retarded races like Butter Troll or Flooper.

[Bood Samel]

I played a vagabond and seen it done a few times. I played a bandit before which is only a slight notch above a vagabond. I tend to like the low to mid powered OCCs more, though I don't like the OCCs that seem like they should be covered by a pre-existing OCC. Like the forger and the safe cracker. If the city rat is the general criminal OCC, shouldn't professional B&E or forgery be picked up by a city that specializes in those fields? Also look at the special forces OCC in mercenaries, wouldn't that just be a head hunter?

I've never seen or heard of anyone playing a flooper, amorph or one of those bubble blowers. I played a zenith moon warper before though, and Simvan a few times. I've seen people play quick-flex, vanguard brawlers, and grackle tooth. Plenty of psi-stalkers. I've never seen nor know of anyone who played a sword fist, though I've used them as NPCs. I have used a butter troll as a NPC. Last year some players were trying to infiltrate the les soldats de St. John and to prove their loyalty they lynched a butter troll and a Larmac in old bones who were stealing tech gear from people and drug their bodies around town. One day I'd like to play a Brodkil, not one with an OCC, just a straight up Brodkil RCC thug.

D-Bees I've used as NPCs-

Cactus people
Brodkil
Simvan
Vangaurd Brawlers
Quick Flex
Simvan
Butter Trolls
Altaras
Cyber-Horsemen
Swamp Sludgers
Lanotaur hunters
D'Norr devilmen
Horune
Larmac
Mastadonids
N'mbyr
Zenith Moon Warpers
Psi-goblins
Psi-X
Sasquatch
Shemarrians
Splugorth slavers
Sunaj
Xiticix
Sword fist

Monsters-

Vyarnect
Dragon apes
Lypocas
Griegleapers
Witchlings (A favorite)
tectonic entities
Cannibal women
Unclean (another favorite)
Tree Spiders
Oborus-Slitherers (Also a favorite)
Devil Unicorns
leather wings
Orcs, ogres, etc. (All the fantasy race thugs)
Windigo
C'ro
Alu
Dar'ota
Vampires
Dragon-wolves
Mindolar
Spider Demons (Remember those spider demons mentioned quickly in vampire kingdoms sitting on two glitter boys?)
Soul Trackers
Witches (Mutant rat witches at that)
Dark hounds
rhino-buffalo (A classic!)
Fury Beatles
blood hawks
shadeling
spiny ravager
loup garou
werewolves
Zombies and assorted undead
Bio-borgs
That necro-tech TW thingy from the rifter
giant leeches
giant water striders

I'm sure I'm missing a few in my 20 years of playing rifts.

[Bood Samel]

I played a vagabond and seen it done a few times. I played a bandit before which is only a slight notch above a vagabond. I tend to like the low to mid powered OCCs more, though I don't like the OCCs that seem like they should be covered by a pre-existing OCC. Like the forger and the safe cracker. If the city rat is the general criminal OCC, shouldn't professional B&E or forgery be picked up by a city that specializes in those fields? Also look at the special forces OCC in mercenaries, wouldn't that just be a head hunter?

I've never seen or heard of anyone playing a flooper, amorph or one of those bubble blowers. I played a zenith moon warper before though, and Simvan a few times. I've seen people play quick-flex, vanguard brawlers, and grackle tooth. Plenty of psi-stalkers. I've never seen nor know of anyone who played a sword fist, though I've used them as NPCs. I have used a butter troll as a NPC. Last year some players were trying to infiltrate the les soldats de St. John and to prove their loyalty they lynched a butter troll and a Larmac in old bones who were stealing tech gear from people and drug their bodies around town. One day I'd like to play a Brodkil, not one with an OCC, just a straight up Brodkil RCC thug.

D-Bees I've used as NPCs-

Cactus people
Brodkil
Simvan
Vangaurd Brawlers
Quick Flex
Simvan
Butter Trolls
Altaras
Cyber-Horsemen
Swamp Sludgers
Lanotaur hunters
D'Norr devilmen
Horune
Larmac
Mastadonids
N'mbyr
Zenith Moon Warpers
Psi-goblins
Psi-X
Sasquatch
Shemarrians
Splugorth slavers
Sunaj
Xiticix
Sword fist

Monsters-

Vyarnect
Dragon apes
Lypocas
Griegleapers
Witchlings (A favorite)
tectonic entities
Cannibal women
Unclean (another favorite)
Tree Spiders
Oborus-Slitherers (Also a favorite)
Devil Unicorns
leather wings
Orcs, ogres, etc. (All the fantasy race thugs)
Windigo
C'ro
Alu
Dar'ota
Vampires
Dragon-wolves
Mindolar
Spider Demons (Remember those spider demons mentioned quickly in vampire kingdoms sitting on two glitter boys?)
Soul Trackers
Witches (Mutant rat witches at that)
Dark hounds
rhino-buffalo (A classic!)
Fury Beatles
blood hawks
shadeling
spiny ravager
loup garou
werewolves
Zombies and assorted undead
Bio-borgs
That necro-tech TW thingy from the rifter
giant leeches
giant water striders

I'm sure I'm missing a few in my 20 years of playing rifts.

[The Galactus Kid]

Magic OCC's from Mystic China, especially the Blind Mystic

I played a Wu Shih in a game of Rifts. He was one of the most powerful legal characters i've ever played. A lot of fun too.

I LOVE when he sent the glitterboy pilot directly to hell. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

[Saitou Hajime]

what book are butter trolls in?

[Mercdog]

Class wise - maybe some of the OCC's from England and Africa, and oddballs like the Russian "Story Teller" or Russian "Villager" OCC's. From New West I doubt anyone has played the Saloon Bum/Girl.

I played a Larmac Saloon Bum. Almost bottomed out for I.Q., but almost maxed P.E., he got the group into a lot of trouble, but he was also the one who saw them through the toughest situations.

[Mercdog]

what book are butter trolls in?

World book 30, D-Bees of North America.

[Ale Golem]

Butter Troll as a Plyer Character

...nor some of the more retarded races like Butter Troll or Flooper.

I want to play a Butter Troll, he'd be based off Rodney Mckay.

[Armorlord]

Poor McKay he deserves better than a butter troll X)

Yeah, though I could picture one based on Dr. Zachary Smith.

Odd, trying to picture an alternate species for Dr. McKay and actually have a hard time picturing anything but human for that guy.

[sasha]

I've never had a Slurmph - I cannot remember how to spell it - in any of my Rifts games as player or GM; however, I rolled one up once but I never had the opportunity to play it.

[Damian Magecraft]

No one I've known personally has ever played anything from the Adventurer class, let alone a Vagabond. If I ever start up a game again, that will definitely change (because I'm considering a Vagabond-only game).

Wow that's crazy, what do you guys play?

My last game was Headhunter-turned-Gunslinger, a Crazy, a Combat Techno-Wizard, Borg, and Juicer. Going back, I can remember everyone playing Juicers, Crazies, Borgs, or Dragons. Or Robotech refugees. I think one guy I know played a Wilderness Scout I think with another group, and disliked it, because everyone else played the super-crazy-powerful stuff.

Gotta love power gamers In the few years that I have been playing I have made over 40 characters so I've played all kinds of types, but I know people that will only play certain kinds of characters, personally I would get bored.

oh you mean like Predominantly Mage types? Like I do? Nah there is enough variation in the Mages I could never get bored playing one.

[Johnathan]

I've got one I doubt ANYBODY has played... the Tourist O.C.C.!

[Damian Magecraft]

Gotta love power gamers In the few years that I have been playing I have made over 40 characters so I've played all kinds of types, but I know people that will only play certain kinds of characters, personally I would get bored.

oh you mean like Predominantly Mage types? Like I do? Nah there is enough variation in the Mages I could never get bored playing one.

See I would get bored playing the same thing over and over but I get bored easily

Well I would get bored with running just LLWs.
But there are so man mage types that I just have to run them all and discover every nuance on how they work. (that master of magics title does not maintain itself after all).

[Bood Samel]

I've always wanted to play a corrupt but have yet to.

[Nekira Sudacne]

I once played a randomly rolled Alien Intelligence from Conversion book one.

What, it dosn't actually say it's NPC only.

[MikelAmroni]

Between me and mine, we've seen almost everything. Vagabond is actually not that bad, nor is the farmer/vagabond from PFRPG.

I've never really seen anyone do anything from Vampire kingdoms (Vampires and werebeasts aside), even floopers, but I know plenty of other folks have. We've even had Blood Riders from SA2, and all manner of Omaguan and Achilles Mutants. More True Atlanteans than you could shakes a stick at - same for demigods and godlings. I've never seen anyone play a mutant rat from Lone STar, or the psi-X mutants. I've seen plenty of bears, dogboys, battle cats, but few monkey boys. Saw a mutant bat over in EU though - he was kinda cool. Body Fixer is about the only one I haven't seen from the main book, namely because there's no real incentive to play one over a cyber-doc - but people have said so here, so go fig. Seen everything from New West and Spirit West at one point or another (OCC wise anyway) - though the cactus people seemed pointless to me. Never seen a guacho from SA2, but then again, I use the new west occs for that tweaked for regional settings. Haven't seen an Eco-wizard yet, or a Dinosaur swamp barbarian, but I had NPCs of both ready to go for my Dinosaur Swamp game that died in the first session.