Mystic question

[drewkitty ~..~]

Watch the movie "Ghost" with Patrick Swayze, Whoopi Goldberg, and Demi Moore.

It says the mystic become invisible to psi probes. In other words, those trying to find him via Psi can't see him with Psi.
This is a separate effect of opening to the SN, like the third effect is to be able to direction distance of SN being and large mystical disturbances is another effect.

[Overlord Rikonius]

The Mystic ability Opening onself to the Supernatural, is kind of confusing me. It say the mystic can become a medium through witch entities and other forces can temporarily communitcate to speak to others. What does this all entail?

But further on it says mystic can't speak or take any actions during this state. So how does one communitcate if they can't speak to the people using them as a medium.

Plus it says mystic becomes invisible to those around him, how does this help those using him as a medium?

If someone can clear this up for me I would be grateful.

I'm pretty sure what that means is "the mystic can't speak but the entity in him can, using the mystic's voice, which is why the mystic can't speak"
Kind of like if you unplugged your mouse and I plugged mine into your computer. You can't move your cursor, but I can.

[Crazy Lou]

It says the mystic become invisible to psi probes. In other words, those trying to find him via Psi can't see him with Psi.

No, they actually become physically invisible too, "one might think of this as a psycic prowl or magic chameleon" (pg 118 RUE). I think this is where the idea for the Psychic Invisibility super power when it got added (which sorta steals some of the mystic's thunder, considering psionic invisibility power is way better than the mystic's power).

Basically the opening to SN means that any entity (see CB1), SN presence, even some demons/AI essences, etc (and I think astral travelers too, but this is probaby just my interpretation), can go into the mystic's body (one at a time -- it's basically like the entity can temporarily possess the mystic, but only talk during possession, instead of the full blown form of possession) and talk to people around him in the physical plane.

Like was said above, the possessing entiy can speak using the mystic's body, but because he's effectively possessed, the mystic can't do anything himself b/c he's not the one in control of his body during that time.

The mystic becoming invisible DOESN'T help those using him as a medium. I don't really think it makes a lot of sense really. You could argue that it helps those listening keep the idea in mind that it's really the entity speaking, not the mystic? I don't know why it was, just that that's how the power is written. Maybe they just wanted to give the mystic an invisibility at will power but to restrict it? And this was how that thought was implemented? I don't know.

[Overlord Rikonius]

It says the mystic become invisible to psi probes. In other words, those trying to find him via Psi can't see him with Psi.

No, they actually become physically invisible too, "one might think of this as a psycic prowl or magic chameleon" (pg 118 RUE). I think this is where the idea for the Psychic Invisibility super power when it got added (which sorta steals some of the mystic's thunder, considering psionic invisibility power is way better than the mystic's power).

Basically the opening to SN means that any entity (see CB1), SN presence, even some demons/AI essences, etc (and I think astral travelers too, but this is probaby just my interpretation), can go into the mystic's body (one at a time -- it's basically like the entity can temporarily possess the mystic, but only talk during possession, instead of the full blown form of possession) and talk to people around him in the physical plane.

Like was said above, the possessing entiy can speak using the mystic's body, but because he's effectively possessed, the mystic can't do anything himself b/c he's not the one in control of his body during that time.

The mystic becoming invisible DOESN'T help those using him as a medium. I don't really think it makes a lot of sense really. You could argue that it helps those listening keep the idea in mind that it's really the entity speaking, not the mystic? I don't know why it was, just that that's how the power is written. Maybe they just wanted to give the mystic an invisibility at will power but to restrict it? And this was how that thought was implemented? I don't know.

Just hope you don't get the obnoxious entity.
"Oh crap, a CS patrol! I need to hide..." *opens to supernatural*
"HEY YOU GUYS!!! HE'S OVER HERE! YEAH HERE, YOU CAN'T SEE HIM RIGHT NOW BUT HE'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE YELLOW BARREL!!!"
"What the? Thanks a lot jerk! AAARGH!!!!"

[Crazy Lou]

That's exactly what I meant when I said they limited it (well that and also that you can't move or do anything). Even worse would be an evil entity. It might use the ability to find convenient (and already magical) hosts. Sure you have a monsterous save bonus vs possession while "open" to supernatural, but you can't stay open forever... and while technically there's no listed duration allowed to remain in this state (it just says the limit for how long he can act as a vessel for a specific entity), you'll have to stop for water and stuff. Eventually the entity will get bored waiting, but if it's a fragented entity or mischevious as opposed to malignant or such and it enjoys the concept of the mystic being stuck for a long time, it might hang around a long time. Your group might have to take care of your effectively catatonic body while you wait for the entity to go away.

[Library Ogre]

It says the mystic become invisible to psi probes. In other words, those trying to find him via Psi can't see him with Psi.

No, they actually become physically invisible too, "one might think of this as a psycic prowl or magic chameleon" (pg 118 RUE). I think this is where the idea for the Psychic Invisibility super power when it got added (which sorta steals some of the mystic's thunder, considering psionic invisibility power is way better than the mystic's power).

That doesn't actually mean they become invisible. It can easily be read as "the psychic equivalent of prowling or the magical equivalent of blending into the background." I've always read it as they become invisible to magic and psionics, without becoming physically invisible.

[Library Ogre]

That doesn't actually mean they become invisible. It can easily be read as "the psychic equivalent of prowling or the magical equivalent of blending into the background." I've always read it as they become invisible to magic and psionics, without becoming physically invisible.

"While in the trance, the character becomes completely invisible to all psionic probes (sort of a cosmic mind blank) and even becomes physically invisible to those around him as he seems to melt into the environment." (RUE p. 118)

So, uh... yeah. Not actually vague about this. The dude is actually, for-reals invisible.

Ok; I didn't have the source with me, so I'd forgotten about that.

[Crazy Lou]

I probably should've been more specific with my quotage.

[drewkitty ~..~]

Watch the movie "Ghost" with Patrick Swayze, Whoopi Goldberg, and Demi Moore.

It says the mystic become invisible to psi probes. In other words, those trying to find him via Psi can't see him with Psi.
This is a separate effect of opening to the SN, like the third effect is to be able to direction distance of SN being and large mystical disturbances is another effect.

I have never seen that movie, always thought of it as a chick flick

The movie has some very relivent parts to the question asked, even if it is a chick flick. If I had to say which parts to skipp over, 'all the parts w/o Whoopi on screen.'