hey what happened to NMI Black Vault?

The Baron of chaos · Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:09 pm

It just disappeared, all of sudden. Anyone know if exist a backup somewhere?

Slight001 · Unread post by **Slight001** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:15 pm

you could try the wayback machine.

edit: Though I would note that it's likely a hickup. They do happen from time to time.

drewkitty ~..~ · Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:24 pm

You could PM NMI with that question.

Stone Gargoyle · Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:31 pm

NMI has to pay for the site. He is currently trying to get the money but it is down until he can pay on it.

Gryphon Chick · Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:55 pm

Stone Gargoyle wrote:NMI has to pay for the site. He is currently trying to get the money but it is down until he can pay on it.

So let me get this straight: You've been working compiling stuff on the site for ten years and they can take all that work away if he doesn't make his annual payment?

Stone Gargoyle · Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:58 pm

Gryphon Chick wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:NMI has to pay for the site. He is currently trying to get the money but it is down until he can pay on it.
So let me get this straight: You've been working compiling stuff on the site for ten years and they can take all that work away if he doesn't make his annual payment?

Yup. But it's not like Nimmy has to do it. He's been generous up til now but I can't take that for granted.

Razorwing · Unread post by **Razorwing** » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:13 am

Gryphon Chick wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:NMI has to pay for the site. He is currently trying to get the money but it is down until he can pay on it.
So let me get this straight: You've been working compiling stuff on the site for ten years and they can take all that work away if he doesn't make his annual payment?

And just one more reason I prefer hard copies of materials I use for games over digital versions, but that is my personal preference.

Gryphon Chick · Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:53 pm

Razorwing wrote:
Gryphon Chick wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:NMI has to pay for the site. He is currently trying to get the money but it is down until he can pay on it.
So let me get this straight: You've been working compiling stuff on the site for ten years and they can take all that work away if he doesn't make his annual payment?

And just one more reason I prefer hard copies of materials I use for games over digital versions, but that is my personal preference.

There is a setting here on the forums that will allow you to print posts out so you can have them in hard copy form. All of the materials in the Black Vault Wiki were posted here first, so you could basically get everything that is posted to the Vault if you spent a lot of time. I think once the Vault is back up it is also possible to print out the pages there.

Stone Gargoyle · Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:16 pm

There also used to be an archived file that you could download. But, yeah, you can print the pages you want once the site is back up and running.

eliakon · Unread post by **eliakon** » Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:03 pm

Gryphon Chick wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:NMI has to pay for the site. He is currently trying to get the money but it is down until he can pay on it.
So let me get this straight: You've been working compiling stuff on the site for ten years and they can take all that work away if he doesn't make his annual payment?

Rent and mortgages and stuff are annoying like that.
On the bright side those people that use the site could probably offer to help kick in the needed money.
Its a chunk of change for one person, but its a lot less if you have 10 or 20 or 500 people spreading the costs around.

Just a thought.

Stone Gargoyle · Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:42 pm

It's not really that much, only $150, but Nimmy has had a lot of difficulties this past year.

eliakon · Unread post by **eliakon** » Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:47 pm

Stone Gargoyle wrote:It's not really that much, only $150, but Nimmy has had a lot of difficulties this past year.

When stuff happens, yeah $150 can be a bridge to far. Been there, done that I know it all to well unfortunately.
But my point remains...
...so far he has done this for a rather long time out of the goodness of his heart, at his own expense.
It sort of frustrates me to see people get upset when a free (to them) service that someone else is paying for gets interrupted.

Stone Gargoyle · Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:55 pm

eliakon wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:It's not really that much, only $150, but Nimmy has had a lot of difficulties this past year.

When stuff happens, yeah $150 can be a bridge to far. Been there, done that I know it all to well unfortunately.
But my point remains...
...so far he has done this for a rather long time out of the goodness of his heart, at his own expense.
It sort of frustrates me to see people get upset when a free (to them) service that someone else is paying for gets interrupted.

I am not upset, personally. Yes, it has been a lot of work to put it all up, but the information is not lost. It is still on the forums for the most part. And as far as I know, Nimmy is going to get the money. He just needs some time to do so.

CMDrunk · Unread post by **CMDrunk** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:09 pm

Stone Gargoyle wrote:
eliakon wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:It's not really that much, only $150, but Nimmy has had a lot of difficulties this past year.

When stuff happens, yeah $150 can be a bridge to far. Been there, done that I know it all to well unfortunately.
But my point remains...
...so far he has done this for a rather long time out of the goodness of his heart, at his own expense.
It sort of frustrates me to see people get upset when a free (to them) service that someone else is paying for gets interrupted.
I am not upset, personally. Yes, it has been a lot of work to put it all up, but the information is not lost. It is still on the forums for the most part. And as far as I know, Nimmy is going to get the money. He just needs some time to do so.

http://webpagetopdf.com

Stone Gargoyle · Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:28 pm

CMDrunk wrote:http://webpagetopdf.com

Thanks. This might come in handy once the site is actually accessible again.

Warshield73 · Unread post by **Warshield73** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:49 pm

Has anyone suggested to NIMI that he do a Patreon for this? If even 10 of us did $1 a month it would cover the cost of the site. I have used it enough that I would.

Stone Gargoyle · Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:17 pm

Warshield73 wrote:Has anyone suggested to NIMI that he do a Patreon for this? If even 10 of us did $1 a month it would cover the cost of the site. I have used it enough that I would.

Not that I am aware of. You could try sending him a private message to that effect.

RockJock · Unread post by **RockJock** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:50 pm

I am not a huge user of the Vault, but I would be happy to contribute to the bucket.

Stone Gargoyle · Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:19 pm

RockJock wrote:I am not a huge user of the Vault, but I would be happy to contribute to the bucket.

You might want to let Nimmy know.

Jack Burton · Unread post by **Jack Burton** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:20 pm

I'm going to reveal my ignorance (again)... what's the black vault?

Stone Gargoyle · Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:07 pm

Jack Burton wrote:I'm going to reveal me ignorance (again)... what's the black vault?

The Black Vault Wiki is a site where thousands of homebrew powers created by various individuals were collected, mainly by yours truly, from the forums and indexed and edited for easy reference. The site also has other materials, but it was started to colect the powers posted in the New Powers thread in this forum. All of the materials posted to the wiki were posted here first, so they can be found, just not as easily.

Pepsi Jedi · Unread post by **Pepsi Jedi** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:28 pm

I'm not sure it was thousands, but it was a few hundred at least.

Stone Gargoyle · Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:45 pm

Pepsi Jedi wrote:I'm not sure it was thousands, but it was a few hundred at least.

Iczer alone has over a thousand powers in there. I have over 800 powers. And in addition to that, there were the pages contributed by other people and the other materials I wrote, such as the creatures. It is thousands. But all that work I put in collecting it all to the Wiki will have been wasted if Nimmy doesn't pay to get the site back up.

Jack Burton · Unread post by **Jack Burton** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:08 pm

Stone Gargoyle wrote:
Pepsi Jedi wrote:I'm not sure it was thousands, but it was a few hundred at least.
Iczer alone has over a thousand powers in there. I have over 800 powers. And in addition to that, there were the pages contributed by other people and the other materials I wrote, such as the creatures. It is thousands. But all that work I put in collecting it all to the Wiki will have been wasted if Nimmy doesn't pay to get the site back up.

Anybody know how much he needs to get it up?

Stone Gargoyle · Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:41 pm

Jack Burton wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:
Pepsi Jedi wrote:I'm not sure it was thousands, but it was a few hundred at least.
Iczer alone has over a thousand powers in there. I have over 800 powers. And in addition to that, there were the pages contributed by other people and the other materials I wrote, such as the creatures. It is thousands. But all that work I put in collecting it all to the Wiki will have been wasted if Nimmy doesn't pay to get the site back up.

Anybody know how much he needs to get it up?

Nimmy said it is $150 yearly.

Pepsi Jedi · Unread post by **Pepsi Jedi** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:32 am

Stone Gargoyle wrote:
Pepsi Jedi wrote:I'm not sure it was thousands, but it was a few hundred at least.
Iczer alone has over a thousand powers in there. I have over 800 powers. And in addition to that, there were the pages contributed by other people and the other materials I wrote, such as the creatures. It is thousands. But all that work I put in collecting it all to the Wiki will have been wasted if Nimmy doesn't pay to get the site back up.

Eeeehhhh. I used to go there pretty regular. I never saw 1000s, unless they were some how hidden in a fashion I couldn't access them. There just wern't that many links to click.

Stone Gargoyle · Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:09 pm

Pepsi Jedi wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:
Pepsi Jedi wrote:I'm not sure it was thousands, but it was a few hundred at least.
Iczer alone has over a thousand powers in there. I have over 800 powers. And in addition to that, there were the pages contributed by other people and the other materials I wrote, such as the creatures. It is thousands. But all that work I put in collecting it all to the Wiki will have been wasted if Nimmy doesn't pay to get the site back up.

Eeeehhhh. I used to go there pretty regular. I never saw 1000s, unless they were some how hidden in a fashion I couldn't access them. There just wern't that many links to click.

The powers are sorted by type, so that breaks up how many links have to be sorted through to find the power you are looking for. If you go to the individual author pages you get a more realistic idea of how many were posted by individual contributors. Most authors did not have that many, but as I said, Iczer and I both have around a thousand pages just in powers. I have been posting there regularly for ten years, so it adds up.

Pepsi Jedi · Unread post by **Pepsi Jedi** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:33 am

Hopefully it'll come back up. I had a few too, but never saw 1000s.

100s, sure but it takes alot to get to 1000s.

Hopefully we'll be able to see at some point.

Stone Gargoyle · Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:24 pm

Pepsi Jedi wrote:Hopefully we'll be able to see at some point.

I'm hoping so. I put a lot of work into compiling everything.

Stone Gargoyle · Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:00 pm

I's been seven weeks, so I don't know if it will ever return. I don't know how long they will keep his account active. I personally cannot help, which is a shame, as i really would like to not have it disappear.

jaymz · Unread post by **jaymz** » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:33 pm

If someone is willing to do the work in getting everything from here and putting it in at least a text file of some kind, I will happily put it up on my personal wiki for everyone to access.

jaymz · Unread post by **jaymz** » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:35 pm

Stone Gargoyle....and Iczer or anyone else...if you still have your originals I will gladly put them up on my personal wiki as well.

Stone Gargoyle · Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:34 pm

jaymz wrote:If someone is willing to do the work in getting everything from here and putting it in at least a text file of some kind, I will happily put it up on my personal wiki for everyone to access.

I already collected them once. I'm not wanting to do the work to collect them all again.

Stone Gargoyle · Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:53 pm

I am currently copying all the stuff I've written to Word documents. You know, just in case.

jaymz · Unread post by **jaymz** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:21 pm

*thumbs up*

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:53 am

NMI will accept donations towards restoring the site. You can reach out to him on Facebook.

Stone Gargoyle · Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:38 pm

Glistam wrote:NMI will accept donations towards restoring the site. You can reach out to him on Facebook.

Yes, his real name is Jeff Ruiz and his profile picture has him holding a Stitch plushie.

RockJock · Unread post by **RockJock** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:59 am

I PMed, and that worked as well.

Stone Gargoyle · Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:51 pm

The wiki will be back up in a few days. Thank you to everyone who donated money to make it possible. It is paid up for three years now, apparently.

Pepsi Jedi · Unread post by **Pepsi Jedi** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:37 pm

Looking forward to it's return.

I'm very curious to see the 'thousands' of powers and such.

Stone Gargoyle · Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:47 pm

It's back up. Here is a link to my page if you care to count my contributions:
http://wiki.thedeificnmi.com/index.php? ... e_Gargoyle
Here is a link to Iczer's page:
http://wiki.thedeificnmi.com/index.php? ... s_By_Iczer

Gryphon Chick · Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:58 pm

Stone Gargoyle wrote:It's back up.

Yay!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:25 pm

U-raahhhhh!!!!

Unread post by **NMI** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:25 pm

Thank you everyone for for concerns, thoughts, opinions and overall desire to see The Black Vault Wiki return. Thanks to a few people, I was able to resurrect the site (as well as my various other related sites and email accounts.

The site is going to be up for at least the next 3 years.

I like the idea of a patreon or maybe a GoFundMe to help pay for maintenance costs, upgrades, etc.

The one thing I know that I don't want to do is have any sort of ads or popups.

There used to be someone who ran a script from his computer that would download and compile the site into a simple to use document, but here's no longer around. I believe that person was Gadrin???

Unread post by **NMI** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:28 pm

I've written a script that will run once a week and download the site to my Dropbox account. The site will not lose any data as far as I'm concerned.

Jack Burton · Unread post by **Jack Burton** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:03 pm

NMI wrote:I've written a script that will run once a week and download the site to my Dropbox account. The site will not lose any data as far as I'm concerned.

Thank you for your hard work. That goes for everyone else who was involved. This information is awesome to have access to!

RockJock · Unread post by **RockJock** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:20 pm

Glad to see the Vault back up and running. Thanks to everyone who donated, or spread the word.

Stone Gargoyle · Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:19 pm

NMI wrote:I've written a script that will run once a week and download the site to my Dropbox account. The site will not lose any data as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks Nimmy.

jaymz · Unread post by **jaymz** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:58 pm

Should I still archive things as well as a back-up?

Reagren Wright · Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:57 pm

The power and apprehsion of Palladium fans is an awesome thing to see.