CS and Porn

[Saitou Hajime]

So I know this can be a touchy subject but I think we can stay out of any problem by using the lump term by itself.

I am of two minds here, on the one hand the CS is very controling, but on the other it want to distract its population from counter idealogy, litericy and the like. I can see it both way. There is no real indication about general morality of they any of the social fuctions suronding porn. I wonder what peoples Opinions are.

[TechnoGothic]

Porn is alive and Well.
Porn is printed, and owned by the State. To be a Porn Star, Model, you work for the State.
Every Porn Theature has a 20 credit Clean up fee once your done.
Stripers are as common as they are in Vagas. Yes most of them are actually guys, deal with it.

Every Chairman for the CS must perform a Spread in the State Magazines when elected or inharited to office. Karls spread is reprinted every year. Yes he is holding a Fluffy White Cat in his lap. Chairmen Tease, they dont show it all

Porn is a Booming Business.

[Balabanto]

Porn is a booming business, all right. No matter where you go, I'm sure there's porn in Rifts. Human/Human, Human/D-Bee, and D-Bee/D-bee. I'm sure most of the last two are illegal in the Coalition states, but this is really the main reason why the Coalition can't win.

That's right. Porn. If you can convince enough of the population that D-bees are sexually attractive, Karl Prosek's Raison D'etre pretty much goes down the chute. I have players who actively pursue this strategy AND make money doing it. They're nowhere near bringing down the CS over it, but in terms of playing the long game, it's a very good strategic move.

[Mercdog]

I'm pretty sure the CS government would view porn much as the government does today. As distasteful as some of them may find it, they allow it. So long as no illegal activity occurs in the pornography (ie, kiddie porn, d-bee/human relations) the flesh peddlers are allowed to conduct their business without interference. Prostitution may be decriminalized, or even legal (and taxed) in CS society, but will still be monitored by Vice Squads to ensure no breaches of 'good taste and decency' or threats to the health of CS citizens.

[Shark_Force]

i doubt the CS encourages drug use, or at least not all drugs. most drugs tend not to be particularly good for you, though some of them have minimal side effects. anything hallucinogenic is probably at *best* restricted unless it also has beneficial side effects for someone who is likely being closely monitored or restrained, and anything that is likely to produce an altered mental state where the person may be permanently affected is likely to be highly regulated and allowed only in special circumstances, if at all.

obviously, the exception is made for alcohol, even though alcohol abuse is a serious problem. i would not be surprised if people who have serious alcohol problems are forced into rehab or something like that, but realistically there's no way they would completely outlaw it even if it does cause problems. likely cigarettes (though possibly not quite in the form we have them today) and marijuana are still around.

but, back to the main topic... i'd say it's probably present, not considered to be particularly tasteful, but probably far more common than anyone is willing to admit. obviously anything dealing with non-humans will get you in trouble, as has been said. it's something that likely 'everyone' knows that 'everyone' does/has, but they all pretend like nobody uses it.

[jaymz]

I think the one Bathing suite image that was a sort of psuedo recruitment poster for the CS ona hot chick in scantly clad armour is a pretty good indication thatthe porn industry is probably alive and well within the CS borders if they themsevles use sex to advertise.

[Killer Cyborg]

Porn is a booming business, all right. No matter where you go, I'm sure there's porn in Rifts. Human/Human, Human/D-Bee, and D-Bee/D-bee. I'm sure most of the last two are illegal in the Coalition states, but this is really the main reason why the Coalition can't win.

That's right. Porn. If you can convince enough of the population that D-bees are sexually attractive, Karl Prosek's Raison D'etre pretty much goes down the chute. I have players who actively pursue this strategy AND make money doing it. They're nowhere near bringing down the CS over it, but in terms of playing the long game, it's a very good strategic move.

I agree.

The CS would probably be okay with human/human stuff, but no mages, psychics, dog-boys, d-bees, etc., or any representation of that kind of thing.

[Cinos]

Far long ago, Apollo would be 100% right. Many fascist nations did try to strictly control or eliminate pornographic material, on the premise that they felt it would reduce birth rates if people could squander their energy in this way. More new age research fails to find conclusive evidence, and it has been more or less dismissed (some point to increased drive with it). I'd Suspect the CS would keep an eye on it (For "Morale Fiber of the People") and leave it in Digital only formats (so books can't be hidden / concealed for store fronts). But you'd have a hard time separating the people and their pleasures in such a harsh world. I'd also think the CS would be unashamed to use it as a propaganda tool (This is what a REAL human looks like!), as well as nods to shipments to outlaying lands, and soldiers far from home. Nothing reminds a soldier of home like discretionary luxury.

[drewkitty ~..~]

The only point I would like to state is that the CS government would probably monitor the industry and go after the ones that producing the non-human porn.

[TechnoGothic]

And we have the reason for CS expansion.
To grow more Weed.

You guys go know the War-on-things-not-human-and-magic is just a smoke screen right.
They just need more land to grow the Weed crops and coke fields...

[Killer Cyborg]

And we have the reason for CS expansion.
To grow more Weed.

You guys go know the War-on-things-not-human-and-magic is just a smoke screen right.
They just need more land to grow the Weed crops and coke fields...

I doubt it.
With nuclear-powered grow-lights, they could have fields upon fields in Chi-Town alone.
(Probably why it's never been mapped out)

[Saitou Hajime]

Well this topic is just dandy. Left the lap top open and the boss looked at the screen and saw "topic reply notification "The CS and Porn". Not only am I outed as a RPG gamer, Now I will hear nothing but Internet porn jokes tomorrow.

That is why I have an office.

[Cinos]

Far long ago, Apollo would be 100% right. Many fascist nations did try to strictly control or eliminate pornographic material, on the premise that they felt it would reduce birth rates if people could squander their energy in this way. More new age research fails to find conclusive evidence, and it has been more or less dismissed (some point to increased drive with it).

While all true, one additional point is some groups that created their policies long ago are still around today, still maintain those policies, and are quite large and influential.

Like Policies based of the US government who's remains created the CS and didn't outlaw Pornographic material for neither servicemen or civilians? I see your point, but don't see how it is valid within the CS.

[Supergyro]

Free speech becomes an important idea here.

A sad truth about bans on pornography is that they run hand in hand with bans on other types of free speech. I have never heard of a facist government which allowed pornographic expression. From Nazi Germany, to modern day freedom averse states like Iran and Saudi Arabia, some things simply seem to go hand-in-hand. Pornographic freedom and religious freedom go hand in hand, I've never heard of a society with one but not the other. However enough dictatorships are puritanical in their sexual teachings that part of me sincerely wonders if puritanism is a required ingredient (or maybe just logical effect) of facism.

By this reasoning, the CS would have a pornography ban. If you want to control your populace, you have to control them sexually and intellectually (Which totally rhymes, that's kind of cool!). Of course, some materials would be more banned than others.

So I'd say the CS, no porn. Of course, CS high ups have comparatively large levels of sexual freedom and access to pornographic materials, while the rank and file has comparatively chaste 'pin ups' and black market access, which is a reason for immediate incarceration whenever discovered.

[rc_brooks]

The other thing to consider is that more effort it takes to "live" the less time there is for frivolities such as pornography. While certainly any citizens of Chi-Town have it more or less "comfortable", that is to say they don't face starvation or death due to exposure, etc.., many in the burbs and elsewhere have much less time or overwhelming desire for such things. Of course there would still be a lot of sex driven business in the burbs, but generally they cater to those with a little more money and not the local denizens on the average. Of course, I would imagine there are all sorts of sexual activities going on the burbs to suit even the most crude of tastes. I would imagine many of the customers of such places are actually from the city and make their way out to the burbs to get their fill of crudeness.

[csbioborg]

The US, in theory, does not allow possession of porn in the Iraq. That policy is rarely enforced but it still is on the books

[jaymz]

The other thing to consider is that more effort it takes to "live" the less time there is for frivolities such as pornography. While certainly any citizens of Chi-Town have it more or less "comfortable", that is to say they don't face starvation or death due to exposure, etc.., many in the burbs and elsewhere have much less time or overwhelming desire for such things. Of course there would still be a lot of sex driven business in the burbs, but generally they cater to those with a little more money and not the local denizens on the average. Of course, I would imagine there are all sorts of sexual activities going on the burbs to suit even the most crude of tastes. I would imagine many of the customers of such places are actually from the city and make their way out to the burbs to get their fill of crudeness.

To be honest i could see a lot thes eplaces of ill repute in teh lower levels of the fortress city as well.

[taalismn]

The image of Karl(or his son) doing the equivalent of the 'Old Spice' ad("Look, I'm on a Skycycle!...") suddenly appears unbidden in my mind...

[MikelAmroni]

Yeah, the CS would view porn as just another media outlet to control. Joseph II is not the type to let a media source go to waste. You can bet there are porns out there that have some grateful villagers thanking the Dead Boys for all they do, and you can bet the mere mention that they have a D-bee lover in the village brings a brutal beat down that then gets the villagers hot and the video ends in one big happy fascist orgy.

The interesting (?) stuff is when you start getting the vampire porn (human and psi-stalkers) and porn for Dogboys (Dogboy on Doggirl action). And then there's the freak humans who buy the dogboy porn - and the human supremecists who love to beat them to a bloody pulp for it. One big violent family.

The discussion could go really dark, really quick, but I think the gist is there. Porn will be alive and well, and soldiers and civilians will pay well for it.

[csbioborg]

I think everyone here agrees that anyone owning hentai of Lord Slyncrth is going to be shot and the materials are going to be burned

[taalismn]

I think everyone here agrees that anyone owning hentai of Lord Slyncrth is going to be shot and the materials are going to be burned

AFTER CS Milintel does an exhaustive study of it to see if it reveals any vulnerabilities about the Splugorth, or if it can be used as propaganda depicting the Splugorth as evil, depraved creatures(even more so than they really are, that is).
After this exhaustive study, the participating CS analysts will likely all receive free cybernetic replacement eyes.

[Vrykolas2k]

Well, no-one can say they're just reading the articles...

[cchopps]

Best. Thread. EVAR!

Isn't there something in the NGR book about the Erin Tarn pinups and the NGR's views on it? Not to say that the CS and NGR would share views.

I think Splynnys GF nailed it. Is the CS like Brave New World? If so, then Porn is ok. If it is like 1984, then I'd say probably not. It is a very thin line and I think it could probably go either way.

C. Chopps

[The Baron of chaos]

oh boys, you don't know what can of vworm you've opened.
Expecially since i took notice of the thread

Now:

AFTER CS Milintel does an exhaustive study of it to see if it reveals any vulnerabilities about the Splugorth, or if it can be used as propaganda depicting the Splugorth as evil, depraved creatures(even more so than they really are, that is).
After this exhaustive study, the participating CS analysts will likely all receive free cybernetic replacement eyes.

I think everyone here agrees that anyone owning hentai of Lord Slyncrth is going to be shot and the materials are going to be burned

AFTER CS Milintel does an exhaustive study of it to see if it reveals any vulnerabilities about the Splugorth, or if it can be used as propaganda depicting the Splugorth as evil, depraved creatures(even more so than they really are, that is).
After this exhaustive study, the participating CS analysts will likely all receive free cybernetic replacement eyes.

Splugorth do actually have "Depraved creature" rights one their patent. They splugorth are tentacle rape incarnated!.
Splugorths are self-lubricating(this is technically and canonically true...think about it, picture it in your mind). Splynn Dimnesiona Market is like internet porn(4chan style) in real life. Yes that's means that in theory P-Bear will eventually pop up somewhere(thankfully there are railguns and plasma flame laucher). Splyncryth himself sound a lot like Tim Curry (generally between Frankfurther and Pennywise mode...Yeah that's pretty much sum Splynncryth personality at any given time). Rape is the second most popular past time in mosntrous atlantis (at least toward weakling SDC beings and slaves) togethers with cannibalism(gorn in its sickest form....).
So in atlantis do like everyone do and keep you MDC pants on. Is better.

i'm prety sure that even if the cs allow porn theyd probly ban stuff that involves nonhumans. dbees are meant to be evil monster vermin who ruined the world & need to be ganked & showing them as sex objects is kinda close to humanising them. altho i bet theres a huuuuuuge underground market for em coz its a taboo so close to the bigotry of cs society kinda like how irl interracial pr0n sells rly well to working class white southern guys.

The interesting (?) stuff is when you start getting the vampire porn (human and psi-stalkers) and porn for Dogboys (Dogboy on Doggirl action). And then there's the freak humans who buy the dogboy porn - and the human supremecists who love to beat them to a bloody pulp for it. One big violent family.

The discussion could go really dark, really quick, but I think the gist is there. Porn will be alive and well, and soldiers and civilians will pay well for it.

Of course. I think standard human porn is welcomed in CS, as they need to keep people focusing on the beauty of being human and nothin like porn do that.
Tollerated, but lillegal porn would be the one featuring augmented and mutant humans. Like crazies, juicers and light cyborgs(more cyberhumandois with lot of cosmetic cybernetics). This stuff will be generally limited to dirty low levels and the burbs. As i said illegal but tollerated
NOT tollerated is Porn featuring D-Bees, very inhuman mutants, and mutant animals. This is for some wild area of the burbs and if caught Coalition will shot your a** in hell....On sad note is not unusual for D-bees and mutant being FORCED into such activity.
Not surprisingly Mind Melter are often being such act of forcing people to do porn. They are really good at pimping. They ar elike walkig rapedrugs, at their worst. Thankfully such low example of Mind Melter rarely live a long and happy life. First succesful saving throw and they found themselves curbed to death by vibro-warhammer.

Vampires,amongst many Supernatural creatures, are very accustomed at using sex as a "bait" to get their lunch. But rather than porn( they don't appear on cameras...) they put on more literary(porn books) and real events. Female Vampires are damned good poledancers. And they are very open as meeting their fans. Expecially if they have blood withint them. They like blood.

The weirdest porn you could stumble upon on Rifts earth by the way is not, surprisingly, dragon porn(little known fact most dragons in their wild hatchling days eventually morphed into a girl they saw on porn magazine. Mostly because they did not know any better) but Full conversion cyborg porn and power armor porn!! Apparently there are weird people out there with a strong mechanical fetish, they probably think Tetsu-ro as a porn movie.

You see I was not joking about a can of worms

[jaymz]

this discussion got me thinking about alot of things in our dailt lives we take for granted. not just porn, but music. what kind of music would the CS allow (if any) and what would be the restrictions of its content. i was once in a campaign were a uso type orginization was putting on a show for the cs troops (of which the whole group was). one of the bands was an anti-dbee death metal band (like the old slipknot). i was thinking thats kinda cool, but does not this typ of music make people want to fight. it would be hard to control an ornary populace. and video games what type of video games would the CS have. im sure the system itself would be some type of vr with electronically downloaded games. but, what type of games would be allowed and what would be illegal. relegion, is there any?, relegion is a good way of controlling the mass, however god is not human, so.....

you know there should be a book on the daily life of your average CS citizen

I believe there was a n article in teh Rifter detailing Media on Rifts Earth....obviouslynot officaily but could be a place to start though.

[Lord_Dalgard]

Chello!

I've always thought that effective anti-CS propaganda that would be hard to stamp out would be the "Hott Women and Naughty Dog-Boys of the Coalition" series.

[Shark_Force]

Chello!

I've always thought that effective anti-CS propaganda that would be hard to stamp out would be the "Hott Women and Naughty Dog-Boys of the Coalition" series.

hard to say. most people in the CS do not consider dog boys to be people, but rather really smart pets. in essence, from their perspective it's basically bestiality, and would be treated by most people as such.

now of course, it should be noted that obviously that kind of porn exists today, so i'm sure that would still be around. it would probably actually be more harshly dealt with, because the higher-ups don't want people thinking of dog boys as people (and this is almost guaranteed to get them really mad). i don't know that it would be particularly harder to get rid of, but they would probably be *trying* harder to get rid of it, imo.

[Saitou Hajime]

Given CS military culture, where Dog Boys and Girls would generally only have access to Human porn [I seriously doubt that the CS would consider Porn for pets] you end up with a good percentage of Dog boys being attracterd to Human females than Dog girls.

[Mack]

Just as a general comment (not directed at any individual here): Please keep this to a PG discussion, and remember there are children on this forum.

Thanks,
Mack

[Shark_Force]

Just as a general comment (not directed at any individual here): Please keep this to a PG discussion, and remember there are children on this forum.

Thanks,
Mack

is this just a general caution, or is there something (or several somethings) specific in this thread that is/are approaching a boundary and we should back away from?

[Ravenwing]

I see Porn in the CS as being state controlled, produced packaged and distributed. At least the legal kind. I imagine there's a whole black market for Human/Dbee, Dbee/Dbee, Human/Mutant, Human/Mutant Animal etc.

But I can also see a huge snuff porn industry centered around D-bees, especially the more human looking ones. These kinds of videos I could see being illegally produced by the propaganda department, simply because it dehumanizes the victims. They're less people, and more like props in a normal movie. Insert magic user, mutant etc here and you get the idea.

Just my thoughts.

[Saitou Hajime]

Just as a general comment (not directed at any individual here): Please keep this to a PG discussion, and remember there are children on this forum.

Thanks,
Mack

I am trying mack, it is hard though.

[Supergyro]

But I can also see a huge snuff porn industry centered around D-bees, especially the more human looking ones. These kinds of videos I could see being illegally produced by the propaganda department, simply because it dehumanizes the victims. They're less people, and more like props in a normal movie. Insert magic user, mutant etc here and you get the idea.

Just my thoughts.

theres like way more racists alive right now than the whole CS population but irl theres not a ginormous market for racist snuff or like any snuff at all rly.

No real market for racist snuff, but there is a very large market for racially tinged porn of all other kinds. It successfully dehumanizes blacks/asians/latinas etc as sex objects... or perhaps it is a result of innate curiosity that a racially charged environment engenders (depending on who you ask). Either way, racism is indeed reflected in porn.

Even classic racists tend to have a depressing habit of having affairs with the subjects of their predjudices (I'm talking to you Strom Thurmond! Don't think that because you're dead that you get out of it.).

For some reason, the more you hate a group, the more you wonder what it would be like to have sex with it, human psychology is just odd that way.

Which makes a case that in the CS, there would be a huge market for DBee porn (black market of course). There also would be a depressing prevalence of CS officials having DBee lovers (Similar to German officers having Jewish mistresses in WWII). The key is to amplify something that isn't currently amplified in the portrayal of the CS (but it is amplified in all learning about facist dictatorships) and that something is hipocrisy.

And I still think the CS propaganda division would simply want to put the hammer down on all of it. Facism and porn have never gone hand in hand.

[Ravenwing]

I see Porn in the CS as being state controlled, produced packaged and distributed. At least the legal kind. I imagine there's a whole black market for Human/Dbee, Dbee/Dbee, Human/Mutant, Human/Mutant Animal etc.

But I can also see a huge snuff porn industry centered around D-bees, especially the more human looking ones. These kinds of videos I could see being illegally produced by the propaganda department, simply because it dehumanizes the victims. They're less people, and more like props in a normal movie. Insert magic user, mutant etc here and you get the idea.

Just my thoughts.

theres like way more racists alive right now than the whole CS population but irl theres not a ginormous market for racist snuff or like any snuff at all rly.

& if the CS wants to show everyone pics of dbees gettin ganked they can just put it on the evening news

Actually I know a guy that use to work in one of the FBI Special Crimes units. The snuff industry is very much alive and well. Not to mention a whole host of other Porn we really don't want to discuss or think of. Both of which are pretty damn sad.

[taalismn]

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It would shock you how maney folks will let there kids watch Saw12or3 or scar face, yet freak out if there kids watch a simple birds and bee's show or a movie that shows nudity.

Scary indeed, especially since many of the former involve pre-gore victim fanservice or stereotype swinging teens/yuppies/dimbulbs getting set up for slaughter.


In the CS, these vintage films are seen as instructional; "Beware the D-Bee", "Exercise Situational Awareness at ALL Times!", and "You're Safer Behind the Guns of Your Friendly Coalition Military!".

[Noon]

Sounds like a rifts version of 'The internet is for porn' would suit this...

Karl Prosek is for porn!
Why do you think the coalition states was born?
Porn, porn, porn!

(replace Kate monster with Tarn...)

[Ravenwing]

Sounds like a rifts version of 'The internet is for porn' would suit this...

Karl Prosek is for porn!
Why do you think the coalition states was born?
Porn, porn, porn!

(replace Kate monster with Tarn...)

If only I could remember Kate monsters lines!

[Ravenwing]

Just as a general comment (not directed at any individual here): Please keep this to a PG discussion, and remember there are children on this forum.

Thanks,
Mack

is this just a general caution, or is there something (or several somethings) specific in this thread that is/are approaching a boundary and we should back away from?

& does this sort of mod warning get posted in threads about genocide or is sex a less kid-friendly topic than mass murder?

It would shock you how maney folks will let there kids watch Saw12or3 or scar face, yet freak out if there kids watch a simple birds and bee's show or a movie that shows nudity.

i think it says a lot about society that were more worried about minors being involved in a discusion about sexual mores & taboos in rifts than a discusion about about... i dunno, how to make it moraly okay for the CS to wanna murder whole sentient species or how awesome a bloodsport arena in ur campain woud be.

The wholesale slaughter of all that is inhuman is not morally questionable. It's the only hope of humans survival in Rifts earth.
Purge the Heretic!
We shall purge!
Suffer not the Witch to Live!
Suffer us not!
Cleanse the Mutant!
We shall Cleanse!
Death to the Inhuman!
We shall Kill!
There shall be no fear as we serve our beloved Emperor!
We shall know no Fear!
This is our Catechism of Hate, by it we shall reclaim this land.
All Hail the Emperor, the light of mankind, the blessed benefactor of humanity, the visionary of the future!

[Shark_Force]

The wholesale slaughter of all that is inhuman is not morally questionable. It's the only hope of humans survival in Rifts earth.
Purge the Heretic!
We shall purge!
Suffer not the Witch to Live!
Suffer us not!
Cleanse the Mutant!
We shall Cleanse!
Death to the Inhuman!
We shall Kill!
There shall be no fear as we serve our beloved Emperor!
We shall know no Fear!
This is our Catechism of Hate, by it we shall reclaim this land.
All Hail the Emperor, the light of mankind, the blessed benefactor of humanity, the visionary of the future!

minor nitpick, but "suffer us not" would be referring to the people who say it. you probably want "suffer it not" or "suffer them not" or, based on all the other responses, possibly "we shall not suffer it" or "we shall not suffer them"

(also, i don't think they would go right out and call it a catechism of hate. nobody wants to be the bad guy... they probably would call it hope or justice or something like that)

[Ravenwing]

The wholesale slaughter of all that is inhuman is not morally questionable. It's the only hope of humans survival in Rifts earth.
Purge the Heretic!
We shall purge!
Suffer not the Witch to Live!
Suffer us not!
Cleanse the Mutant!
We shall Cleanse!
Death to the Inhuman!
We shall Kill!
There shall be no fear as we serve our beloved Emperor!
We shall know no Fear!
This is our Catechism of Hate, by it we shall reclaim this land.
All Hail the Emperor, the light of mankind, the blessed benefactor of humanity, the visionary of the future!

minor nitpick, but "suffer us not" would be referring to the people who say it. you probably want "suffer it not" or "suffer them not" or, based on all the other responses, possibly "we shall not suffer it" or "we shall not suffer them"

(also, i don't think they would go right out and call it a catechism of hate. nobody wants to be the bad guy... they probably would call it hope or justice or something like that)

Lol. Yeah, but Catechism of hate sounds so much more epic then Catechism of hope

[csbioborg]

The wholesale slaughter of all that is inhuman is not morally questionable. It's the only hope of humans survival in Rifts earth.
Purge the Heretic!
We shall purge!
Suffer not the Witch to Live!
Suffer us not!
Cleanse the Mutant!
We shall Cleanse!
Death to the Inhuman!
We shall Kill!
There shall be no fear as we serve our beloved Emperor!
We shall know no Fear!
This is our Catechism of Hate, by it we shall reclaim this land.
All Hail the Emperor, the light of mankind, the blessed benefactor of humanity, the visionary of the future!

minor nitpick, but "suffer us not" would be referring to the people who say it. you probably want "suffer it not" or "suffer them not" or, based on all the other responses, possibly "we shall not suffer it" or "we shall not suffer them"

(also, i don't think they would go right out and call it a catechism of hate. nobody wants to be the bad guy... they probably would call it hope or justice or something like that)

Lol. Yeah, but Catechism of hate sounds so much more epic then Catechism of hope

besides its not evil to hate evil

[Mack]

its not evil to hate evil

non sequit... however you spell that word... much?

u know making cryptic comments only makes u look smart if teh context is clear. otherwise it just makes u look like ur tryin to look smart.

1) Address the topic, not the poster. If you can't do that, don't post.

2) Someone who uses "u" in place of "you" should not lecture others on appearances.

[Ravenwing]

i think it says a lot about society that were more worried about minors being involved in a discusion about sexual mores & taboos in rifts than a discusion about about... i dunno, how to make it moraly okay for the CS to wanna murder whole sentient species or how awesome a bloodsport arena in ur campain woud be.

The wholesale slaughter of all that is inhuman is not morally questionable. It's the only hope of humans survival in Rifts earth.
Purge the Heretic!
We shall purge!
Suffer not the Witch to Live!
Suffer us not!
Cleanse the Mutant!
We shall Cleanse!
Death to the Inhuman!
We shall Kill!
There shall be no fear as we serve our beloved Emperor!
We shall know no Fear!
This is our Catechism of Hate, by it we shall reclaim this land.
All Hail the Emperor, the light of mankind, the blessed benefactor of humanity, the visionary of the future!

u know ur alowed to have OUT of character opinions right? u know, like everyone else on this thread has. now go & start a thread about cs genocied insted of derailin this one

Lol. Well you did mention the whole non-human thing first.

Besides, this message, like CS porn, is proudly brought to you by the Department of Public Information and Education.
For all the Non-CS folk out there, you would call that the Department of Propaganda.

[Lord_Dalgard]

Chello!

Sounds like a rifts version of 'The internet is for porn' would suit this...

As, yes, it's a lovely old hymn isn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vING8M4dJDg

Of course, this version is actually more suited for the Heroes Unlimited board.

[Saitou Hajime]

I am looking for some Beta readers for a essay that I am doing for Sexuality of the fictional earth of Rifts. Any takers?

[johnkretzer]

I think the CS would have human/D-bee porn and etc. But it would be more propganda than anything else. It would show why it is evil...and there would always be the morale lesson on why it is wrong. Sorta like the pulp novelsd about homosexuals in the 40's/50's.

Of course all the 'actors' used will be prisoners of the state.

[johnkretzer]

For some reason, the more you hate a group, the more you wonder what it would be like to have sex with it, human psychology is just odd that way.

Actualy it is nothing odd about it. Racist generaly hate because of power and control issues. Power is related to sex. So they get the whole control and power.

Also you have the whole forbidden fruit temption angel as well.

[keir451]

I think there would be a sizable market for porn both in the city and in the burbs. The material produced in the city may indeed be state sponsored or independant (the state just looks the other way for the most part), in the Burbs you'd probably get a mixture of State Porn and Underground D-bee porn (hot Elf chicks anyone?).

[jaymz]

I am looking for some Beta readers for a essay that I am doing for Sexuality of the fictional earth of Rifts. Any takers?

Sure why not.

[johnkretzer]

I think the CS would have human/D-bee porn and etc. But it would be more propganda than anything else. It would show why it is evil...and there would always be the morale lesson on why it is wrong. Sorta like the pulp novelsd about homosexuals in the 40's/50's.

Of course all the 'actors' used will be prisoners of the state.

*puts on her pr0n professor hat!*

that comparison dont work at all. gay porn pulps back then were an underground market & publishers & booksellers coud be done for obscenity. they were only sold in skeezy adult bookstores & they were published by skeezy fly-by-night publishers & most important they were written for a gay male audience. the 'moral lesson' was just hte gay dudes comin to a sudden bad end after 100 pages of nonstop hardcore smut & it was just there as a figleaf so publishers coud say its not obscenity coz it shows the consequences of sin.

the CS making human/Dbee pr0n while its halfway thru tryin to wipe out all the Dbees in America woud be like Nazi Germany decide halfway thru WWII that what the soldiers wanna see is hardcore interracial porn with a whole buncha well endowed jewish guys. its ... probly not the smartest idea

I am not saying it would be exactly like them...but I can see a couple of 'public service' message type things...like a CS soldier being seduced by a 'normal' beautiful woman who turns out to a demon...or a dragon...or even a vampire, who than eats his face.

It would be short....have sex (thus be porn) and then have a hideous ending. It would actualy make very effective propoganda.

But you maybe right...I am just trying to think outside the box.