Interesting question: Crusifying Vampires

[Thinyser]

Wait, if i shoot a vamp with a silver bullet, it can jus push it out? I pretty sure that not the case. The silver needle is similar.

yes, they push silver bullets out. it's just that they can't push it out if it's inhte HEART.

they heal normally otherwise.

Actually they turn to mist and they "fall" out, unless the wood or silver is lodged in the heart. When this is the case ALL of their powers are unuseable and they are in a state of "suspended animation" untill the offending object is removed by someone else.

I don't see anywhere in the "super regeneration" section where the offending objects are pushed out even when said object is not lodged in the heart.

[Thinyser]

Thanx for savin me some work Thin.

NP its something all my vamps use...hey if you could wouldnt you?

[Killer Cyborg]

Wait, if i shoot a vamp with a silver bullet, it can jus push it out? I pretty sure that not the case. The silver needle is similar.

yes, they push silver bullets out. it's just that they can't push it out if it's inhte HEART.

they heal normally otherwise.

Actually they turn to mist and they "fall" out, unless the wood or silver is lodged in the heart. When this is the case ALL of their powers are unuseable and they are in a state of "suspended animation" untill the offending object is removed by someone else.

I don't see anywhere in the "super regeneration" section where the offending objects are pushed out even when said object is not lodged in the heart.

So basically, the vampire would just heal around the needles (silver or not) without pushing them out, but then he'd turn to mist and escape anyway.

[Thinyser]

Wait, if i shoot a vamp with a silver bullet, it can jus push it out? I pretty sure that not the case. The silver needle is similar.

yes, they push silver bullets out. it's just that they can't push it out if it's inhte HEART.

they heal normally otherwise.

Actually they turn to mist and they "fall" out, unless the wood or silver is lodged in the heart. When this is the case ALL of their powers are unuseable and they are in a state of "suspended animation" untill the offending object is removed by someone else.

I don't see anywhere in the "super regeneration" section where the offending objects are pushed out even when said object is not lodged in the heart.

So basically, the vampire would just heal around the needles (silver or not) without pushing them out, but then he'd turn to mist and escape anyway.

Right or if its not prevented from doing so the reverse works well, turn to mist frist and leave the area and heal. Which is what my vamps do.

If they were kept from thier transformation abilites by whatever was being injected then they would only have the option to heal. However I'm not sure if they would heal over the needle (preventing the injection) in their vein since that is sort of an open space... If this were the case why wouldn't juicers also have this happen? they heal faster than normal too.

I think this actually might work...IF whatever is flowing out of the needles prevents turing to mist.

[Thinyser]

Given that we know silver isnt pushed out, silver needles would definitly work, again provided the solution prevents transformation. Nekira may be on the right track with regular needles because the healing nature of the vamps body might eject things not silver, like implants, from the body.

but you cannot get regular needles into the vamp in the first place...they wouldn't even scratch the skin.

[Thinyser]

They could if you opened the skin with silver or wood. For example, if create an incision with a silver blade and stuck the needle in it would work. This shouldnt be much more of an inconvienence than puttin on a bio comp. It would save on money and having to fiddle with the biocomp replacing the needles.

Well that would work but they would also "fall" out when the vamp changes to mist. So one would have to inhibit this transformation with whatever your pumping through those needles, and do it quickly (under 7 seconds).

Also of note, neither wolfbay or garlic inhibit the trasformation, though if consumed they will induce the vamp to vomit blood.

[Thinyser]

So my idea is caput unless someone knows something that inhibits transformation.

its "kaput"

Do you like hittin me with the stick???

Its an olive brance of peace...its his way of saying your screwed but no hard feelings

[Killer Cyborg]

So my idea is caput unless someone knows something that inhibits transformation.

Yup.
And it seems like even if it did work, that it would just be a complex way of achieving an effect that could be better accomplished by tying a bunch of crosses to the vampire.

I do like the imagination behind it though.

[Zer0 Kay]

I'm going for option B. Like you say, only holy water and sunlight can kill 'em.

Wouldn't that drive a vampire insane? No blood to feed on and bound to the cursed cross... I'd go bat guano insane within a week if I was a vampire subjected to that!

Uh who said anything about holy water? Any water will rinse your vampiric troubles away.

[Zer0 Kay]

Now, we all know that a Cross will keep a vampire at bay, and even damage them if touched.

but what happens if you manage to incapasitate a vampire (yes, this includes preventing them from turning into mist), then nail them to a cross Roman-style?

would it be enough to destroy them entirely? or would they be damned to take damage constantly, but sinse it's not water, sunlight, or decapitation, simply continual heal and hurt for all eternity (well, or at least until someone takes them down)

Couldn't destroy them permanently, but they sure as heck wouldn't like it.

You know I think that is even more sadist than my timed staker that removes the stake and before the vampire is mobile or coherent enough to turn mist stakes it again.

[Killer Cyborg]

Now, we all know that a Cross will keep a vampire at bay, and even damage them if touched.

but what happens if you manage to incapasitate a vampire (yes, this includes preventing them from turning into mist), then nail them to a cross Roman-style?

would it be enough to destroy them entirely? or would they be damned to take damage constantly, but sinse it's not water, sunlight, or decapitation, simply continual heal and hurt for all eternity (well, or at least until someone takes them down)

Couldn't destroy them permanently, but they sure as heck wouldn't like it.

You know I think that is even more sadist than my timed staker that removes the stake and before the vampire is mobile or coherent enough to turn mist stakes it again.

Nice one!

[Zer0 Kay]

You have to ask yourself, what would the point be? Does psychological warfare work on vampires? Does torture? I agree I doubt it'd kill one but what's preventing them from just breaking free?

More than likely the constant irritability from the wood and/or silver pinning them to the cross, as well as the constant pain of being stuck to a cross...these factors would likely be far to painful and thus too distracting for the Vamp to even break free.

...especially if you drape multiple cross necklaces over the poor sucker's (pun unintended) neck.

~ Josh

I thought according to some that necklaces or embossed, etched or otherwise permanent symbols that provide no illumination don't do anything to a vampire unless it's hand held. Otherwise why bother with the necklaces and just use sharpies and color crosses on it or if you want silver use one of those metalic pens... just got to make sure it actually has silver in it

[Zer0 Kay]

I really like this idea, but what happens when the sun comes up? The vamp would only suffer for a few hours, and then disintegrate come dawn.

Not if you crucify him or her inside, underground or in the Arctic Circle (during the winter).

~ Josh

Or in a cave or building.
If you want to wimp out on a trip to the Arctic Circle in wintertime.

Uh wouldn't that be inside or underground like Josh said? But darn I was plannin on putting it in the Antarctic Circle from May to July and moving it on an aircraft with no window or in a ship to the Arctic Circle from Dec-Feb. ....

[Zer0 Kay]

Now, we all know that a Cross will keep a vampire at bay, and even damage them if touched.

but what happens if you manage to incapasitate a vampire (yes, this includes preventing them from turning into mist), then nail them to a cross Roman-style?

would it be enough to destroy them entirely? or would they be damned to take damage constantly, but sinse it's not water, sunlight, or decapitation, simply continual heal and hurt for all eternity (well, or at least until someone takes them down)

Couldn't destroy them permanently, but they sure as heck wouldn't like it.

I can see some more fanatic Fire and Brimestone preachers using this meathod on any vampires they find in the new west if they can pull it off.

Agreed.
I like the idea.
Crucify them on Saturday night, let the sun finish them off in time for the Sunday service.
Or keep them crucified inside somewhere on display, as some sort of object lesson.

Early morning sermon: Yes, and you can see how the savior suffered thousands of years ago for our sins, as this dirty hell spawn does now. [Light peaks up over the mountains, vampire starts to smoke and yelling profanities, threats and curses] And soon you shall see that the light of GAWD saves all from suffering even this disgusting affront to the his mighty will. These demons act as gods and some claim to be, but truth be told only your LORD could come back from his death on the cross! [sun bobs up over the mountains and vampire burst into flames, screaming] This blemish on the father's bountiful Earth will be erased and the soul of the body it took saved. [vampire goes limp and begins falling to pices as ash blows to the wind (Are you crying? No a pice of vampire blew into my eye.)] Three days from now this blood sucker will still be dust in the wind while your master in three days time was resurrected to provide truth to his followers. He will come, he will save us, the cataclysm was nothing compared to the apocalypse that is coming for the non-believers.[crowd roars hallelujah, God be praised, then there was much rejoicing and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruit bats ]

[Zer0 Kay]

Lets make it more fun, place the cross in side a room that has a spot light that it throws a giant cross shadow over the vamp but is only turned on when it's day. So now it also has a giant shadow of a cross on it when it should be asleep. Lets see it sleep now

Uh how would it sleep on the cross anyway?

[Zer0 Kay]

So my idea is caput unless someone knows something that inhibits transformation.

Yup.
And it seems like even if it did work, that it would just be a complex way of achieving an effect that could be better accomplished by tying a bunch of crosses to the vampire.

I do like the imagination behind it though.

Huh? I thought you were one of the proponents for crosses on armor will not harm or keep vampires at bay? I could be insulting you and comparing you to Thinny though

[Killer Cyborg]

So my idea is caput unless someone knows something that inhibits transformation.

Yup.
And it seems like even if it did work, that it would just be a complex way of achieving an effect that could be better accomplished by tying a bunch of crosses to the vampire.

I do like the imagination behind it though.

Huh? I thought you were one of the proponents for crosses on armor will not harm or keep vampires at bay? I could be insulting you and comparing you to Thinny though

Painted crosses won't do much, only irritate Wild Vamps.
But the books repeatedly say that crosses, or even the shadow of a cross, harm vampires. The cross doesn't have to be held.

[Zer0 Kay]

So my idea is caput unless someone knows something that inhibits transformation.

Yup.
And it seems like even if it did work, that it would just be a complex way of achieving an effect that could be better accomplished by tying a bunch of crosses to the vampire.

I do like the imagination behind it though.

Huh? I thought you were one of the proponents for crosses on armor will not harm or keep vampires at bay? I could be insulting you and comparing you to Thinny though

Painted crosses won't do much, only irritate Wild Vamps.
But the books repeatedly say that crosses, or even the shadow of a cross, harm vampires. The cross doesn't have to be held.

OK then so I could wear a suit of armor that has crosses welded all over it then?

[Killer Cyborg]

So my idea is caput unless someone knows something that inhibits transformation.

Yup.
And it seems like even if it did work, that it would just be a complex way of achieving an effect that could be better accomplished by tying a bunch of crosses to the vampire.

I do like the imagination behind it though.

Huh? I thought you were one of the proponents for crosses on armor will not harm or keep vampires at bay? I could be insulting you and comparing you to Thinny though

Painted crosses won't do much, only irritate Wild Vamps.
But the books repeatedly say that crosses, or even the shadow of a cross, harm vampires. The cross doesn't have to be held.

OK then so I could wear a suit of armor that has crosses welded all over it then?

Yup.
It would likely have a lessened effect; the crosses wouldn't do any damage unless they touched the vampire (or were touched by it).
For purposes of keeping vamps at bay, they'd only be as effective as painted crosses.

[Nekira Sudacne]

Now, we all know that a Cross will keep a vampire at bay, and even damage them if touched.

but what happens if you manage to incapasitate a vampire (yes, this includes preventing them from turning into mist), then nail them to a cross Roman-style?

would it be enough to destroy them entirely? or would they be damned to take damage constantly, but sinse it's not water, sunlight, or decapitation, simply continual heal and hurt for all eternity (well, or at least until someone takes them down)

Couldn't destroy them permanently, but they sure as heck wouldn't like it.

You know I think that is even more sadist than my timed staker that removes the stake and before the vampire is mobile or coherent enough to turn mist stakes it again.

thanks. I do try

[Killer Cyborg]

So i got my lazy @$$ up and looked at vamp kingdoms and i think i found a way to get my juicer harness to work, but it is complicated. Here it goes.

A vamp is alive an awake up until they get tp -21 HP.

Under Vampire Combat notes, it says that a vamp who has recieved damage below hit points cant use metamorphisis powers. so at -1, its awake but cant use powers.

SO, if u can rig a harness to slowly drip water at a rate that would keep it below 0 but above -21 (with all the reasearch done by Doc Reid, im sure he could figure it out, if he hasnt already) you could nail the sucker to the cross.

HOWEVER
All that may not be neccesary. In the course of research, right after the part i jus stated, under touch of crucifix heading, it says the touch of a crucifix immobilzes (cannot move/attack) a vamp for a melee. If a vamp is tied to a cross, its constantly touching the cross and is constantly immobilized. If you take immobilize, as i do, to mean cant transform, the harness isnt necceary to tie em to the cross (jus a different way of torture)

Any geek points for the good research?

Definitely.

Although I already mentioned the part about crosses.

[Cinos]

If your intent is to just pointlessly cause the vamp pain and agony, stake it, tie it up, and then pull the stake. They come back when you pull the stake right? But tied down, and then touching the cross, poof, there goes any ability to do anything (from touching the cross). Perosnaly, I'd do this, then mount the cross on my vehical as a warning to the others!

Cinos

[Blight]

Suround your town with crosses, use them as ways to exicute vamps leave vamps there till sun up. No clean up i like it.

[Blight]

Them as real punishment make them act out the ending scene From spartacus. Reid squirts vamp with water, " say it " says Reid calmly vamp crying screams "no". Reid throws more water say "it" with just a little laughter in his voice. The vamp screams with pain and shame, "I am spartacus! sob sob" Reid turns to his assistant "I love when they say that."

[Library Ogre]

What would the result be of staking a vamp and giveing it a cross tattoo then unstaking it?

It regenerates the tattoo, like it was never there. Unless you're planning on using silver as the ink...

[Cinos]

Don't they deslove into a skeleton after you stake them? Tattooed bones...might be a new vamp fad....

Cinos

[Killer Cyborg]

You have to ask yourself, what would the point be? Does psychological warfare work on vampires? Does torture? I agree I doubt it'd kill one but what's preventing them from just breaking free?

You're nailing a blood-sucking minion of evil to a cross. There doesn't need to be a point.

Well, there's lots of points right there.
The nails.

[Killer Cyborg]

What would the result be of staking a vamp and giveing it a cross tattoo then unstaking it?

I dont think that would work. You would need a wooden or silver needle, but i think the ink wouldnt stay. Besides, painted crosses only bother wld vamps.

I'd say that it would have the same effect as touching the vampire with a cross, but that it would burn off immediately and heal over as normal flesh.
Or that it would do nothing at all.

[Zer0 Kay]

Now, we all know that a Cross will keep a vampire at bay, and even damage them if touched.

but what happens if you manage to incapasitate a vampire (yes, this includes preventing them from turning into mist), then nail them to a cross Roman-style?

would it be enough to destroy them entirely? or would they be damned to take damage constantly, but sinse it's not water, sunlight, or decapitation, simply continual heal and hurt for all eternity (well, or at least until someone takes them down)

Couldn't destroy them permanently, but they sure as heck wouldn't like it.

You know I think that is even more sadist than my timed staker that removes the stake and before the vampire is mobile or coherent enough to turn mist stakes it again.

thanks. I do try

You know a dirty mind is a terrible thing to wash but a sick mind is a beautiful thing to behold. Is that Nekira or Mistress Nekira?

[Borast]

True, but if I recall correctly, the reversion from staked skeleton to ravening animal is seconds.

[Zer0 Kay]

True, but if I recall correctly, the reversion from staked skeleton to ravening animal is seconds.

15 I beleive so the machine pulls the stake out five seconds and plunges it back in. Time of course can be modified so that it waits for approx time the vamp is just consious... Of course it could also be modified so that the natural reaction of the vamp to jump up and nab whoever the idiot is who unstaked them to... stake them. Machine removes stake 15 seconds later the vamp jumps up attempting to nab... someone but instead encounters a stake. Of course a secondary or master vampire may be too smart for this, unless it actually is a reflex, and it wouldn't be used.

[Zer0 Kay]

A master vampire nailed to a cross as a weapons of mass destruction! Device is a large cross shaped, coffin like device. The box is completely sealed (as in mist tight). On the box is drawn multiple arrows directing which way is up. On the top of the box (one of the two long, broad sides) is a metal latch that is locked down. The latch is holding down a rubber sealed red post into the box. When the lock is removed and the post is removed within (some random period of time) a horde of vampires storms the area killing every living thing in a (figure it out) radius.

Inside the box is a master vampire who was staked then nailed to a cross then sealed into the coffin. When the vampire awakens and finds himself contained the first thing he'll do is probably call his minions to him.

Think it would work?

[Ectoplasmic Bidet]

How compressed can the mist form of vampire be? Could a horde of them all turn into mist and squeeze into a small cannister? If so, that would be one freaking crazy grenade weapon. Vampire in a can...

[Killer Cyborg]

How compressed can the mist form of vampire be? Could a horde of them all turn into mist and squeeze into a small cannister? If so, that would be one freaking crazy grenade weapon. Vampire in a can...

We had a single misty vampire hide in an inflatable woman once.

[Ectoplasmic Bidet]

How compressed can the mist form of vampire be? Could a horde of them all turn into mist and squeeze into a small cannister? If so, that would be one freaking crazy grenade weapon. Vampire in a can...

We had a single misty vampire hide in an inflatable woman once.

I don't know what's worse, the vampire in the doll[that's just evil] or the fact that you just made me wonder if there are inflatable female dolls of other species.

Imagine being a CS grunt taking part in a raid on illegal goods. You think it's going to be alien weapons or magical texts...then you start busting up crates and inflatable Wolfen women spill out...Those damned perverted Dog Boys.

[Zer0 Kay]

A master vampire nailed to a cross as a weapons of mass destruction! Device is a large cross shaped, coffin like device. The box is completely sealed (as in mist tight). On the box is drawn multiple arrows directing which way is up. On the top of the box (one of the two long, broad sides) is a metal latch that is locked down. The latch is holding down a rubber sealed red post into the box. When the lock is removed and the post is removed within (some random period of time) a horde of vampires storms the area killing every living thing in a (figure it out) radius.

Inside the box is a master vampire who was staked then nailed to a cross then sealed into the coffin. When the vampire awakens and finds himself contained the first thing he'll do is probably call his minions to him.

Think it would work?

ok, so he calls his minions (onions. . . scalions. . . . . minions? no not that) then they come and bust him out if they within range. but then u have a ton of pissed off vamps. Wouldnt wanna be the one who did that to him cuz the master vamp is gonna want revenge.

Well if the MV doesn't know who did it... so what? Plus whoever had the person capture the MV to use as a WMD probably isn't too worried about the MV eating the hunter. The revenge will come at the cost of a large portion of your enemies population.

[Zer0 Kay]

How compressed can the mist form of vampire be? Could a horde of them all turn into mist and squeeze into a small cannister? If so, that would be one freaking crazy grenade weapon. Vampire in a can...

Can you turn that into a freon free hair spray? How compressed does vampire mist have to be to turn to liquid?

[Killer Cyborg]

How compressed can the mist form of vampire be? Could a horde of them all turn into mist and squeeze into a small cannister? If so, that would be one freaking crazy grenade weapon. Vampire in a can...

We had a single misty vampire hide in an inflatable woman once.

I don't know what's worse, the vampire in the doll[that's just evil] or the fact that you just made me wonder if there are inflatable female dolls of other species.

Well, I never thought of that!
Although they do sell "Love Ewe"s in the real world.

Imagine being a CS grunt taking part in a raid on illegal goods. You think it's going to be alien weapons or magical texts...then you start busting up crates and inflatable Wolfen women spill out...Those damned perverted Dog Boys.

[Thinyser]

Although they do sell "Love Ewe"s in the real world.

I don't even want to know...

[Zer0 Kay]

Although they do sell "Love Ewe"s in the real world.

I don't even want to know...

Better than a 'Love Him' eh