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Unread postPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:33 am
  

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My apologies for the Black Vault Wiki site being down this past month. I notified Nimmy about it but he has yet to get it back up and running.

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Unread postPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:53 pm
  

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Clearly we need to re-up the beatings!!!!


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Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:33 am
  

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Comment: "Your inferiority complex might be justified."
He doesn't seem to want to bother with it. With all the work I put into it, it's frustrating.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:03 am
  

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That's just super sad :(

Is there any way to transport that info to these forums somewhere so all the work isn't lost?

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Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:51 am
  

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He doesn't seem to want to bother with it. With all the work I put into it, it's frustrating.

Yeah. I've been waiting years for my account request to get approved. It all seems moot now.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:34 am
  

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slade the sniper wrote:
That's just super sad :(

Is there any way to transport that info to these forums somewhere so all the work isn't lost?

-STS

All the materials were taken from threads on these forums. To collect them all again would be very hard. I don't have copies of the pages as files. That was something I had planned to do but never got around to. We're talking thousands of pages.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:07 pm
  

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You can't just ask him for the files? He does have backups?

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Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:21 pm
  

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Comment: Non Impediti Ratione Cogitationis
I'm far from NMI's biggest fan (And I'm sure I'm not his either), but do you want me to try reaching him via Facebook and see if I can get some help with this?


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Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:08 pm
  

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Comment: "Your inferiority complex might be justified."
I've been pestering him for a month. I think it may be that he just doesn't want to pay for the site anymore. He's saying he's too busy, but I think it's more than that. He's gone through a lot in the past few years.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:12 pm
  

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slade the sniper wrote:
You can't just ask him for the files? He does have backups?

-STS
With very few exceptions, I was the one posting everything over and I would be the one who should have kept backups. But I didn't. Nimmy had very little involvement with the site. He didn't keep any backups and neither did I.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:59 pm
  

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What was the black vault wiki?

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Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:06 pm
  

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I've never used a web scraper with the Wayback Machine so don't know if it's problematic, but the most recent snapshot of the site was taken 26 Jan.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:50 pm
  

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Curbludgeon wrote:
I've never used a web scraper with the Wayback Machine so don't know if it's problematic, but the most recent snapshot of the site was taken 26 Jan.
What is a web scraper?

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Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:53 pm
  

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Comment: "Your inferiority complex might be justified."
Captain_Nibbz wrote:
What was the black vault wiki?

A wiki site hosted by Nimmy where I collected various materials from these boards, mostly superabilities originally posted to the New Powers thread.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:26 pm
  

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Comment: They/Them
A web scraper is a data extraction tool used to copy records whole-hog from a website. There are a bunch available.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:34 pm
  

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Curbludgeon wrote:
A web scraper is a data extraction tool used to copy records whole-hog from a website. There are a bunch available.
Good to know. Maybe I can manage to salvage some of the pages on the site. I'm guessing it will be a long and drawn-out process to get all the pages though.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:09 am
  

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Wayback Machine Downloader might be worth a shot. It is one of the aforementioned scrapers. archivarix is another option. They do a certain number of pages/files for free. I know there are pay to play ways of doing this as well, no clue onthe cost.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:52 pm
  

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RockJock wrote:
Wayback Machine Downloader might be worth a shot. It is one of the aforementioned scrapers. archivarix is another option. They do a certainnumber of pages/files for free. I know there are pay to play ways of doing this as well, no clue onthe cost.

I don't have money right now to pay for a scraper. To salvage the Black Vaut Wiki would require one that can handle about two thousand (and more) pages of material.

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Unread postPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:21 am
  

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The Downloader is free I think. I just don't know how easy it is.

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Unread postPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:03 pm
  

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Comment: "Your inferiority complex might be justified."
Wayback Machine Downloader is not free. It has a free trial.

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Unread postPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:49 pm
  

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Comment: Non Impediti Ratione Cogitationis
So good time to use the free trial?

More seriously what do you need to set up an account for said trial and what does it offer?


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Unread postPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:02 pm
  

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Comment: "Your inferiority complex might be justified."
Usually you have to enter credit card information for a free trial and it charges you after a time if you do not cancel. The prices are $15 for one domain recovery, $60 to turn the site into a Wordpress conversion (whatever that is), and $79 a month to subscribe for unlimited access. The demo only recovers the first four pages and does not convert the pages to wordpress files, only HTML pages which must be uploaded on a server.

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Unread postPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:15 pm
  

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Comment: They/Them
Wayback-machine-downloader is free, but admittedly a bit of a hassle to get working. Open source software like Scrapy is free as well. The larger problem is that only a fraction of the pages on a given website are captured within a given snapshot. Poking around the link I put up a few posts above quickly leads to nonarchived pages.

I don't know this NMI person, but whatever company they purchased hosting through likely has a backup, and shooting them a quick email for such ain't a big ask.

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Unread postPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:19 pm
  

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Comment: "Your inferiority complex might be justified."
I don't know who NMI went through as a host for the Black Vault Wiki. That wasn't my responsibility.

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Unread postPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:30 pm
  

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Yeah this sucks. This is actually my first post on the forums(I haven't been on forums like this in easily 10 years); made an account just so I could start manually searching through the forums to try and restore some of the powers my group had collectively decided were good for our games. Funnily enough, they were mostly your entries, StoneGargoyle. We're trying to put together our own wiki with the books' powers and also a lot of black vault powers, complete with a RNG system for randomly rolling characters with all of those included. Unfortunately the search system is down on the forums currently - is it usually like that? Or is my timing bad?

If you have suggestions or something, feel free to reply here or PM me or something.


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Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:49 pm
  

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This is very sad. And source of lot of frustration.
It lead me to go on all the pages of the new power thread, writing down a sort of index on my paper notebook(i'm old i like to write on paper, what can you do) number of page, name of the power(if i liked a lot i put author name). It took me weeks and two whole notebook and 5 Bic pens. And still i fear i missed something!

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Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:57 pm
  

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My frustration isn't with the powers. Those are easily enough located. My frustration stems from all the other stuff I've written over the years that is in a dozen or more threads that I will need to try and locate.

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Unread postPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:25 pm
  

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Damn. I was using the Black Vault to research and make sure I didn't re-invent somebody else's wheel when writing up new powers.

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Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:56 am
  

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taalismn wrote:
Damn. I was using the Black Vault to research and make sure I didn't re-invent somebody else's wheel when writing up new powers.
I feel ya. I was in the midst of trying to fix and update powers and it is easier when you can look up a specific power without wading through the New Powers thread. Not to mention when referencing a power in another thread being able to link to a wiki page rather than trying to locate it in New Powers.

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depending on what servicing fees are, there could always be a community effort, like with a patreon or something

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Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:31 pm
  

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zerombr wrote:
depending on what servicing fees are, there could always be a community effort, like with a patreon or something
I am low income. No matter what the cost, I cannot afford it. Nimmy was paying to have the site hosted before. I am more worried about getting my stuff downloaded into files on my computer than putting them up on another site right now.

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Unread postPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:37 pm
  

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Comment: Non Impediti Ratione Cogitationis
Depending on how much it is I'd be willing to help fork over some cash, especially if it's just temporary so we can rescue it for now and save the info.


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Unread postPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:44 pm
  

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Daniel Stoker wrote:
Depending on how much it is I'd be willing to help fork over some cash, especially if it's just temporary so we can rescue it for now and save the info.


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You'll have to talk to NMI about that.

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Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:00 am
  

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I'm not sure that conversation would end well. :p


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Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:58 pm
  

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I'm not sure that conversation would end well. :p


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He's tired of paying for it, which I can understand. I got tired of being alone to post things to it and being the only ne to check to make sure there was no funny business going on.

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Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:10 pm
  

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I can totally understand that, I was more addressing the fact that he and I haven't seen eye to eye on stuff in the past and I'm not sure how he'd take something coming from me.


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Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:34 pm
  

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Comment: "Your inferiority complex might be justified."
Ah. I suppose that would be a problem.

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Daniel Stoker wrote:
I'm not sure that conversation would end well. :p


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He's tired of paying for it, which I can understand. I got tired of being alone to post things to it and being the only ne to check to make sure there was no funny business going on.

I followed the directions to request access and NMI never responded. I only had one power I was of a mind to add anyway, and I know it's all a moot point now, but if he wasn't caring about it anymore I wish he would've transitioned it to those who still did. I donated money to help renew it last time and it's just sad to see it was all for naught. :|

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Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:27 pm
  

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Glistam wrote:
I followed the directions to request access and NMI never responded. I only had one power I was of a mind to add anyway, and I know it's all a moot point now, but if he wasn't caring about it anymore I wish he would've transitioned it to those who still did. I donated money to help renew it last time and it's just sad to see it was all for naught. :|
Nimmy's gone through a lot in recent years. I don't hold it against him not wanting to pay for the site anymore. But like you say, he could have let someone else take over paying for it if he didn't want to.

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