+14 vs. magic?! Yikes!

[Guy_LeDouche]

Just picked up a copy of Nightbane and its supplements from Ebay; looking for something new to play.

What an awesome game! I love about 90% of all of it!!

However, I did have a question. I was tinkering with an NPC and in his Morphus this guy receives a +14 vs. Magic! Holy *&^%!!!!

Are other Nightbane like this?

[Nekira Sudacne]

high PE+other bonuses add up quick.

[Reagren Wright]

When so many Morphus forms provide HF above 12, I wonder if you walk
into Club Freak you spend 5 minutes rollings saving throws before
you even get to the bar?

[Guy_LeDouche]

HAHAHA!!! I hadn't thought of that!

[Prince Artemis]

i generally play by the rule that you only need to roll vs hf if the thing in question is doing something that could appear threatening

[Reagren Wright]

So if your walking up to the bar and you have to pass the Nightbane
with the stigma of protruding organs while he's eating pizza and his
buddy has the stigma of open sores is drinking beer, and there are flies
buzzing around their head and not the food, then do you roll for HF?

[Mike Taylor]

When so many Morphus forms provide HF above 12, I wonder if you walk
into Club Freak you spend 5 minutes rollings saving throws before
you even get to the bar?

I think that it's generally assumed that most bar patrons (and Nightbanes in general) are used to being around creatures that look that horrifying. However, for a first-timer, I'd probably have them roll against the average horror factor of all the Nightbanes in the club. After a while, the GM could add bonuses to the roll for every X number of visits until the sight of Nightbanes no longer bothers the character.

[BillionSix]

I would give a bonus, or even ignore the Horror Factor altogether, based on the Nightbane's natural ability to recognize each other.
I mean, sure she looks like a giant Shelob-looking spider with nails sticking out of her, but somethng in your Nightbane soul says "She's one of us."
The H.F. would of course kick in if said spider girl came barrelling down on you shrieking for your blood, but if she was just sitting by a table at Club Freak sipping a drink with a little umbrella in it, I wouldn't call for a roll.

Brian

[Gomen_Nagai]

there are ways to get that Save vs magic down in Nightbane, and one of them includes attacking people in their dreams and Astral plane, where bonuses are not PE based but ME based.