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But to add, having other governments pop up and cause drama is fun. And some third rate government selling knock off mecha to anyone with the cash makes for some good mecha stompy time.

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Back when I did PF 1e, I had come off Robotech and Rifts. It was fun, but I prefer 2nd myself and that's fine.

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Though if you run a less combat heavy game, some of those may work. AKA Rifts:Gunsmoke.

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The pdf is the full version of the revised edition module, so you should be able to print out the missing pages from there.

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Yeah, that was an oversight there with the Shadow device. For adapting it to the new canon, I'll place the adventer after 21st mars division gets wiped out and end around the same time as the battle of reflex point. The moon base...a smaller facility on the moon that if it was discovered the UEEF co...

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Just got the PDf of the book. The additional Earth mecha was always a fan favorite of mine, the Delta fighter and ZSB were always good additions, the logan and assault battloid weren't as nice, but then I never liked the logan. The new masters mecha were a joy, something less fragile than the origin...

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Hope it does since I lost my copy of return revised.

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I remember seeing some updated occs from Mechaniods years ago that were updated to Rifts 1e format. Anyone remember where those printed?

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I've been pleased with the update to the art. Looks less 80s and toy like for the new destroids. My only regret was that they didn't add a spacecraft in the book. I'm assuming if was one in the draft, it got cut for space. Already got ideas for pirates/privateers that use a mix of old marine gear pl...

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Hmmm...I wonder if the black market got hold of IHA's design schematics.

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For anyone that has the final version. Any changes to the OCCs from the raw version to the final version?

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Now I'm wanting the stats on a Tokugawa class so I can mod it into the S.S. Argo.

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I've also thought of using the old EBSIS battloids as homegrown knockoffs by a non-UEG nation. I may have the old sentinel destroids show up on colony worlds as either a homegrown unit or cast offs from the UEEF that they didn't want anymore.

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It's been batted around since TSC came out about what to do to mecha that were more or less homegrown or booted from canon to make them comparable to TSC standards. Today is not that. The question is which mecha would you not update beyond the basics to make it fit the updated system? My choice is t...

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Since from the previews and what I've picked up on the boards, we got some new mecha in the mini game. Has anything been said if those might get statted up in the RPG in the future?

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And folks wonder why I come to class in a battlroid. And yes, I go to class in it too. The bribes to have it declared a service war machine were worth it. But MREs get old for lunch fast. And yes, I'm putting a tux on the thing too for prom. I get the impression of this guy being the resident Shini...

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And folks wonder why I come to class in a battlroid. And yes, I go to class in it too. The bribes to have it declared a service war machine were worth it. But MREs get old for lunch fast. And yes, I'm putting a tux on the thing too for prom.

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Since we are looking at a fall release, it means that other projects in the pipeline got the love first or approval from HG took a while or both. I normally don't mind if it results in what happened with the Macross 2 sourcebook where we got additional material.

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sounds like the franken-mecha rules would work for both mecha and vees. Not to mention a chance to pull out some old mdc vees from 1st edition, update and then turn them into a Frankenstein monstrosity of parts.

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Got my copy of both today and color me impressed. Mega kudos to the author as well.

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Should be shipping this afternoon.

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I'm going to view the Genesis Pit sourcebook as New Gen part 2. Given that it will have a lot more info on the pits than the original Invid Invasion book did. Make it easier on me mentallly.

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Another twist that we could add, the EBSIS could have been a big supporter of the Pioneer mission/UEEF but still have the love/hate relationship with the UEG and ASC. And we could also add that they attempted a 'third way' sort of thing if you want to draw on the Cold War for historical references....

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Went a head and pre-ordered it myself. Also looking forward to the Genesis Pit sourcebook too. Will make updating Return of the Masters easier.

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Another twist that we could add, the EBSIS could have been a big supporter of the Pioneer mission/UEEF but still have the love/hate relationship with the UEG and ASC. And we could also add that they attempted a 'third way' sort of thing if you want to draw on the Cold War for historical references. ...

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Some thing that could also work would be having a player choose a theme for the insanities and then select based on that theme. The mind cracks as the crazy goes up in level, but follows a certain path based on the individual. Examples, the looney-toon concept, Saturaday morning super-hero, pulp noi...

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I still have the preorder in, so got that done. Guess I will need to preorder New Gen next week then. From the last offical bit of info, I figured the changes required pushed it back. HG may have also wanted New Gen out first, but that is just a theory until I get more info.

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Which to add to the previous post from me is that it now has Don Henley's song 'A She Wants to Do is Dance'in my head now.

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The idea that came to me on this was to have the EBSIS be a part of the UEG, but opposed to the neo-feudal structure of the government. Gear-wise, mostly UEDF with a smattering of early UEEF gear and a few pieces of ASC and some leftover Zent gear. I figure the best way to use them is as a focus for...

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After getting the Masters book, what I might do with the new masters' mecha in the revised edition is adjust them to the updated system and leave them for the most part as is. Something I didn't add earlier, have the final encounter at the factory occur durning the Battle of Reflex Point. Just to ra...

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Nice to see that I go the ideas flowing. I figured on replacement as a quick method without a lot of time on conversion and an excuse to use new toys that might not see a lot of gametime, so yes it's just me being lazy.

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Since we have the marine book and New Gen on the way, I've been thinking on what would have to be done to 'Return of the Masters'. The time frame would be durning the New Gen series, possible starting after Ariel, Corg and Sera are on the scene since we have Humaniod Invid (Stage Five) in the advent...

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Keeping the discussion game related, I find that religion can be a useful tool game-wise for furthering the story or enhancing it. Kinda like mining modern politics and headlines for game plotlines. Useful, but don't be too heavy-handed about it.

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So the FLGS guy is trying to talk himself out of sales - bright. I love people who do that. My folks recently moved to SW Tennessee, and my dad has actually had people refuse him service because he's a Yankee... When the hell did Michiganders become F'n Yankees?!?! I'm in SE Tennessee and I haven't...

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I have to agree about wanting the Tristar and Tokugawa in there. But I know I may have to wait on those two. Would have been nice to have them in there and have given us a bonus with both the ASC and UEEF mecha compliment.

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Following HGs train of thought, the UEEF could have been considered a defacto seperate branch post 2nd Robotech War. And the lack of EF equipment, correct me if I'm wrong, could be due to different philosophies at the time. By the Invid Invasion, The ASC looked like it was adding UEEF systems to fil...

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On the Pineapple cake, I have to quote something I saw on a blog earlier:
'pineapple salad takes lives,
pineapple cake saves lives.'

I have to agree with that, pineapple salad needs to be banned in all RT/Macross games.
It's just too dangerous to serve to PCs.

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Also, CS felt threatened, not really stated but it's there, with FQ's education policies. Think about it, FQ had and has the ability to train a larger pool percentage-wise of educated professionals. If they stayed in the CS, brain-power would have been a big export for them. Considering how paranoid...

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It's kinda hard to debate KC. But I do like the CK as of RUE, I've seen people object to the tech focus of the zen combat. It does boil down to a theme and setting issue. If you make even the supernatural forces of darkness enarmored of tech to various degrees, then you have something there. If the ...

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Some good ideas here, but I can't think of anything that can top what macross 7 did. Now that's munchkin. Or as we say: 'The munch is strong in that series.' err.... pray, expand... i dun remember any munch by the Macross 7..... Just the concept, a band that wins a war and beats the bad guys by sin...

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Some good ideas here, but I can't think of anything that can top what macross 7 did. Now that's munchkin. Or as we say: 'The munch is strong in that series.'

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I caught most of the macross omages myself. On Alto, he seems more like they took Rick and slammed him into Lancer and took out some of Rick's/Hikaru's emo-ness( thank the maker!) and Ranka is just the anti-Minmei that the show needs.

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Sometimes it's good for them to push back the release date. I was very happy with the Macross 2 sourcebook when it finally came out. So how many times was it pushed back? And how much longer did you have to wait? It got pushed back at least one month, but PB added extra content for the same price. ...

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Sometimes it's good for them to push back the release date. I was very happy with the Macross 2 sourcebook when it finally came out.

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I don't have dinosaur swamp, but for curiosity's sake, how far into east TN does it go?

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Considering the nature of the rifts, it's possible to allow time travel, even allow players to try to change things, but not really. The coming of the rifts will still happen, the dark age will still happen, the setting up to 101 PA will still happen. All they can change is saving some more lives fr...

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I also like Defender_X's example of the rescued "Shemarrians". Signed, Rathorc Lemenger. I do, too. Rescued Shemmarians might include rogue Blind Warrior Women and they would borg themselves out as time went on. thanks, I like to have Archie and Hagan come up with new ways to hide their t...

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I had an idea for a flesh and blood version, basicly young girls that got rescued from splurgoth slavers and raised by the Shemarrians, mainly as a way for Archie to through everyone off the real story. I figure that the merc or robot pilot OCC with mods might work. Then outfit and equip accordingly...

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Surprisingly, depending on the book determines how much needs to be updated. For example, the NGR military occs surprisingly need very little adjustments to get them updated RUE standard. Add military etiquette and remember the secondary skill list from RUE and bam!!

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I just hope that the look survives into the production plane.

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