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And I have never said that "Society" or anything like it was Principled. As has been stated by other people in this thread, Society is, at best, Selfish as a whole. It is the rare individual who is Principled and a Principled person is going to view this as Murder. Let me check something ...

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I can go with that. I'd also like to see robots with more MDC as well as I'd think they'd have thicker armor as well. Otherwise they are almost literally a scaled up suit of PA without heavier armor/weapons (in some cases)/etc. i agree, with reservations. many of the older robots (pre CWC) have too...

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Good by.... I will miss having the Judeo- Christian ally.

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Sorry don't have that Rifter. Is it a official adventure? Don't see the problem with your last part - a dedicated gunner uses his number of attacks, the WS bonus (and as of RUE the WP HEW skill), and any long range strike bonus that the machine grants. Personally I always thought that the reason RC...

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To put this another way. A Head of State or the head of a hostile orgaiation dedicated to the death of the innocent is a combatant. Whereas a line soldier can have the combatant taken from him by him through his surrender or even throughing down his weapon and running, someone in charge of such an ...

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1) Sure you are right that tatto man would try to close...and the Skull Smasher would try to keep distance. And unless the tattoo man starts right on top of it the Skull Masher should be able to atleast get off one shot at range...this is especialy true to be fair if the tattoo man gets to activate...

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1) Where did you get your info on radar in Rifts? Page 137 give details about the sensor equipment. Radar can track things on the ground...it is just harder but ignoring that 2000' range on the thermo-imager would pick up tattoo man.... 2) Depends what is tasked to do... 3) Ok granted not all...but...

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So who wins ? the Skull Smasher, without damage, unless there is some funky tattoo that allows the T-Man to do damage over a mile away. Skull Smasher's speed = 90 MPH max .. T-Man's speed = 200 MPH.. How exactly is the skull smasher going to out run someone who can fly nearly 3 times faster then it...

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In hand 2 hand combat .. A 15th lvl Tattoo man is just as powerful as a Coalition Skull Smasher.. Who do you think would win in a hand 2 hand combat situation ? Is this strictly fists? No. This is an all out fight between the two. H2H, or otherwise. These are YOUR words. YOU CHANGED THE PARAMETERS ...

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I am still waiting to hear how the Tman is going to fight the skull smasher at all from more than a mile away. I've already stated in hand to hand combat .. in the original post. Why are you trying to change the perameters of the original post to what ever you want ? See my answer below... you do r...

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In hand 2 hand combat .. A 15th lvl Tattoo man is just as powerful as a Coalition Skull Smasher.. Who do you think would win in a hand 2 hand combat situation ? Is this strictly fists? No. This is an all out fight between the two. H2H, or otherwise. These are YOUR words. YOU CHANGED THE PARAMETERS ...

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not agianst phaseworld ships, at least not when you have dozens of them.

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I am still waiting to hear how the Tman is going to fight the skull smasher at all from more than a mile away.

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Lenwen wrote:
Elthbert wrote: yes there are psi stalkers in non dog pack roles.

Show me 1 canon refrence of this very thing ?

Sure off the top of my head... there are phsyco-stalkers about 100 as i recall. non of these are in command of a dog pack.

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One thing. It sya All dog boys are led by psi-stalkers but it does NOT sya all psi-stalkers lead dog boys Neither does it say all psi-stalkers .. do not lead all dogboys .. were right back where we started .. Jaymz's logic is correct. So then yes or no .. is my logic wrong ? Do the books state that...

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Does everyone agree that A star trek weapons officer on the bridge would not get his heavy energy weapons bonus. He never even sees his weapons. Agreed, since I already said that. WEll it wasn't you I was inquiring about agreement, since you used a HE example I was trying to give a WS example that ...

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Does everyone agree that A star trek weapons officer on the bridge would not get his heavy energy weapons bonus. He never even sees his weapons.

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I must say I find it deeply disturbing that 12% of those here would willingly become quasi undead.

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Standard juicer, or titian jucier. It is the only form of agmentaiton where you keep both your humanity and your sanity. As such, if in a world such as rifts I think it would be the thing to do. I would concider crazy conversion under the right circumstancs, never cyborg.

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I know Tmen are abd to bone and all but isn't the Tman going to be getting somewhere like 20 attacks coming at him every round? includng minimissle strikes. these attacks can rachout an touch the t man at a mile or more. How exactly is the T-Man going to fight this guy at all?

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jaymz wrote:Yu want to give the a nasty surprise? Use teh damage values for the laser turrets from macross II. 1d4x1000 twice per melee

because 1d4 x100 isn't enough?

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To put this another way. A Head of State or the head of a hostile orgaiation dedicated to the death of the innocent is a combatant. Whereas a line soldier can have the combatant taken from him by him through his surrender or even throughing down his weapon and running, someone in charge of such an o...

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"Good" is not a cost benefit analysis. "Good" is an ideal that you live up to regardless of cost - because it is the "right thing to do." And destroying evil, even killing bad people can indeed be the right thing to do. Murder is never the right thing to do. Those who ...

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"Good" is not a cost benefit analysis. "Good" is an ideal that you live up to regardless of cost - because it is the "right thing to do." And destroying evil, even killing bad people can indeed be the right thing to do. Murder is never the right thing to do. Those who ...

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Iron Manticore wrote: "Good" is not a cost benefit analysis. "Good" is an ideal that you live up to regardless of cost - because it is the "right thing to do."

And destroying evil, even killing bad people can indeed be the right thing to do.

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I was skimming over the Psi-Stalker read out in Rue .. And I came across this little tidbit of information. A full 15% of the Coaltion military is composed of Psi-Stalkers. I diden't pay it no mind at all .. then I was skimming over the Dog-Boy read out in rue as well .. shortly after .. And I came...

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The REAL question here that should be adressed .. If the FQ Navy has helped in any capacity the overall total development of the entire CSN .. Then what is stopping them from producing thier own Carriers or larger ships like them ? I don't think that is really the REAL question. But to answer it. I...

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AdmTolval wrote:Elthbert wrote:

HE (Elvis) ended up being an 350 lb

Must have been the new Elvis

yes he was the REALLY fat Elvis!

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And from another perspective - listen to how absolutely Selfish you sound. I'M a Paladin....MY judgement...because I am...MY justice is justice....MY duty...I don't care... Who says you aren't the deluded one? This just opens a bigger can of worms about Objective Good vs. Subjective Good. My god sa...

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Re-reading the alignments, I find myself not thinking much of a Principled character, given that they are meant to be so stringent about the law, I would seriously question the so called goodness of the alignment. It also makes me question, if a principled character is so much by the letter of the ...

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This is why I prefer the DnD 3.5 Alignment system.... Principled to me is what they would call a Lawful Neutral person. As in "Doesn't anyone care about the god-damned rules?!?" I myself like them both. but I don't see them as measuring the same thing, and have have run games where I had ...

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TechnoGothic wrote:Most people in the world would fall into the Selfish alignments by default.
They are not Good, but they are not evil either.

I feel about the selfish alignments like Seimbida does about Nuetral. Selfish is just a code word for evil. If you are out for your self you are evil, plain and simple.

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Re-reading the alignments, I find myself not thinking much of a Principled character, given that they are meant to be so stringent about the law, I would seriously question the so called goodness of the alignment. It also makes me question, if a principled character is so much by the letter of the ...

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You see I don't see alignement in Paladium as being something that you adhere to, but as a label for how you behave. This is differant than D&D where your alignment is a philosophical postion in the multiverse. AS such I think that shifting alignments is a gradual thing in Rifts. If you make a h...

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Scrupulous characters are entirely capable of lying - to Selfish and Evil people. So, that is not applicable. If he decides he wants to lie to another Good person just because and doesn't have a damn good reason - damn straight he will slip in his alignment. And no, in regards to Evil. Nothing in t...

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Yes, a single act warrants a review and probably change of alignment. If you can not follow your alignment, than you should choose another - or not use them in your game. SO if a scrupulous guy lies, once, you make him change his alignment? What if it to save the innocent. What if he makes a promis...

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Now my question is, if one of you guys, especially a Principled/Scrupulous/Unprincipled character, has a chance to kill off an unarmed Prosek/Hitler , can you do it without changing your alignment? Will you shoot an unarmed murdering sociopath? Sounds like an oxymoron, doesn't it? Lets Review the G...

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Okay, so... Abraham Lincoln - legitimate military target. John Wilkes Booth is not a villianous assassin, he is a war hero? John Kennedy - legitimate military target. Lee Harvey Oswald is not a villianous assassin, he is also a war hero? Abraham Lincoln was a legitimate military target and a war cr...

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Well I had a PC who played a Superhero who was from the world of HU. He was a Maori fat Elvis impersonator. He wore the sequence suit and talked like him and everything. I made himerole onthe chart for number of powers he got one major and 3 minor I let him pick the major and one minor and made him ...

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So how do interpret the canon i such a way that prerifts ships are designed by Quebec? Or are you just trolling? Which ships are pre-rifts ? Perhaps the very ships that the FQ book stats are not available to them ? Or are you .. Trolling ? If this were true then we would also know that FQ did not h...

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Wow....so, assassination is not murder? I love the loose morals we all have around here. So, I could assassinate Ghandi? Or the Dalai Lama? The Pope? These are all world leaders, so therefore have the makings of combatants, but that's okay now says you. Or do they have to be leaders who have forces...

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So how do interpret the canon i such a way that prerifts ships are designed by Quebec? Or are you just trolling? Which ships are pre-rifts ? Perhaps the very ships that the FQ book stats are not available to them ? Or are you .. Trolling ? If this were true then we would also know that FQ did not h...

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So how do interpret the canon i such a way that prerifts ships are designed by Quebec? Or are you just trolling? Which ships are pre-rifts ? Perhaps the very ships that the FQ book stats are not available to them ? Or are you .. Trolling ? No in fact at least one prerifts vessal is totally availabl...

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FQ was manifestly NOT around during the 20th century, so either the CS carriers do not exist at all ( though QUebec says they do) or FQ did not design them. There is no way around it. To heck with canon refrences .. huh In fact, a full half of the ships, boats, other aquatic vehicles and underwater...

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FQ was manifestly NOT around during the 20th century, so either the CS carriers do not exist at all ( though QUebec says they do) or FQ did not design them. There is no way around it. To heck with canon refrences .. huh In fact, a full half of the ships, boats, other aquatic vehicles and underwater...

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It depends on your location. That's right, your physical location and the circumstances surrounding it. Let's take the Spoils of War Module. You have defeated Galidor Marik, architect of the Sorcerer's Revenge. He is carpet of Adhesioned and biomanipulated in front of you, and your PC's have won. H...

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The most relevant combat skill would prevail, the least relevant would not come into play. PA combat does nothing to enhance piloting ability, only fighting with the suit. 100% agreed. Your not in combat with the PA, thus no bonas's apply to the combat threw the PA. But all the bonas's apply threw ...

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I agree with Lenwen since he is quoting more recent sources. The most recent publication (in this case, Free Quebec and Aftermath) is ALWAYS what is deferred to. As a writer for Palladium, if I turned in a manuscript that had Emperor Tromm throughout because his name was in the first printing of th...

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Furthermore, while flotilla tactics are perfectly viable agianst gunships they are of dunious use agianst carriers, massed patrol boats will never make it to a carrier, never. actually, that was proven wrong in the Millennium Challenge 2002 wargame. when used in enough numbers, even patrol boats ca...

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Wrong again .. Pg 81 gives us a Carrier battle group, pg 82 is a detailed description of the Joseph Prosek Carrier. One Carrier battle group consists of exactly .. 1- Aircraft Carrier 1- Sea King Cruiser 1 or 2- Destroyers 2- Frigates. 6 ships at most, for 1 Carrier Battle group. Are you serious? C...

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